Yes, i remember the Hale case now - out of uniform and caught red-handed taking out information that could reasonably be presumed to endanger the besieged population of the town, in light of the fires with which it had been set alight ... ? ... this would have been subject to interpretation as with all things, still on the face of it the man was a spy, aiding and abetting the hostile forces, and the traditional penalty for espionage was the rope
'Why are singling out the terrorism against the Loyalists?'
Why not? ... no wait, let me re-phrase that - gee, do you think i should have typed more in that post? ... now why didn't i, hmm ... well, nothing for it but to explore the root causes of the number and selection of keys tapped, i shall attempt to keep the full explanation of them concise, something perhaps under eighty thousand words per month -
1. that post - #reply-18268671 - was of what, a couple of hundred words?
2. the post addressed the case of Hale, which you had brought up and to which i was responding in a relatively brief bout of insomnia, it was designed to go no further, and really was no more than addendum to the previous post on the film Bowling for Columbine - #reply-18268669
3. i did in that post say 'sorry about your ancestor', and meant it quite genuinely - it happens to be my belief that there may exist better ways to improve our systems of governments than that of bloody civil war ... just a personal quirk, forgive me, i plead as my excuse a rumoured genetic provenance in homo sapiens sapiens
4.a. the entire world, in which are included, by the way, this g.w.n. and a goodly number of other peoples on this planet, have heard from birth, for many generations, repeatedly and ad nauseam, the rebel side of the story involved .... which rebel side, by the way, glosses over almost entirely the victims on the dissenting side in that civil war ... and that's what it was you know - a civil war, brother literally against brother in more than a few cases, relative against relative in many
4.a. precious bloody few have ever heard the loyalist side of the story, how the survivors were lucky to escape with their lives, following the murderous suppression of dissent in the lower colonies ... this one-sided view can be easily demonstrated by googling up websites, few of which give the loyalist side of the picture ... there are some - rootsweb.com
voy.com .. mmm, chat site that, this is interesting -
'One very good book is called 'Redcoats and Rebels, by Christopher Hibbert. It shows the story through British eyes. Both sides did commit atrocities, especially in the south. Another book called 'Maryland Loyalists' by Chris New is a good read. Quite a few loyalists were hung in Maryland. The congress basically considered anyone fighting for King and Country, after the declaration of independence as a traitor...which apparently justified hanging, or in some cases murder. Many murders had actually gone uninvestigated prior to Lexington and Concord. This was because anarchy reigned and if you didn't agree (or abstain) from the conflict with the crown, you were considered an enemy. The ISBN for Redcoats and Rebels is 0-380-71544-9.'
[do note the bit i bolded, eh, it is not easy to find such admissions]
canadiana.org
'Atrocities were committed and there was a great deal of suffering on both sides: crops and homes burned, farms destroyed, torture, atrocious prison conditions and other deeds common to war in the 18th century ....It is estimated that about 500,000 people were actively loyal to the Crown during the Revolutionary War.'
personal.utulsa.edu
'1782 .. 19 April Letter describing murders of 300 Loyalists in 96th Dist, S. Camden, and 5 in Charleston, including describing Frederick Lagrone as being murdered as a Tory before this time.'
co.cleveland.nc.us
'A number of unjust murders took place -- not the Patriots finest hour' - mmm, notice the use of the term 'patriot' here, to describe one side of a civil war ... just one side, in a civil war ... that's one (1) side only, in a civil war [wouldn't 'civil' and 'war' seem to contradict each other? .. ah but that is not central to the project on which we are embarked, which is an adequate response to your inquiry] ... looks maybe like use of terminology in propaganda will warrant a section of its own though eh
[hmm, break for a nice cup of tea here, section 4.a. looks like being extensive and time-consuming, perhaps more efficient search terms will come to mind later]
5. the use of carefully selected terminology like 'patriot' for the combatants of only one side, carrying the inherent implication that to dissent from that side's views or methods was somehow 'unpatriotic' ... there will be other terms for sure, on reflection over the coming years of this dispute, and we shall explore them as time permits
6-665 [<--leaving open sections here for future use, as reserve]
666.a. the struggle continues - at this time of writing, and for these sixteen long months past, an organisation reputed to be an arm of the currently constituted rebel government, and named 'Commerce' department, has been conducting economic terrorism against loyalist forestry producers in the true north strong and free to which their ancestors escaped ... as to whether this comes about purely through the greed of the yellow pine lobby, or whether a name of the loyalists' shires - British Columbia - is a factor, we may discover hints as research continues
'I regret that i have but one keyboard to type for my province.'
- el Sup-tomandante, 24 Nov 2002, somewhere in Free Loyalistan |
