To: TigerPaw who wrote (17207 ) 11/25/2002 4:59:38 PM From: MSI Respond to of 93284 The unspoken issue is also that the database is already in place. All transactions have been able to be monitored for decades already. Read Bamford's books, "Puzzle Palace" and "Body of Secrets" on those capabilities. Also, talk to any number of experts off the record or on the record about sources of information available, systems and methodologies to process that. Any such capability that can be used, has been, and is currently. The only reason for new legislation is to provide cover to bring some of those results into public court for conviction and execution of citizens and foreigners. Our all-powerful central government officials only need to decide at any time that there is a (secret, unstated) security risk in any neighborhood, or all neighborhoods, and anyone who has purchased ammunition, guns, gun magazines or any other remotely-related materials with other than cash in the last two decades will be visited by their local authorities explaining the new "terrorism laws" and that they need to swear allegiance, volunteer for the citizen-watch committee, and give up their weapons. A serious neighborhood sweep operation will be with large weapons and mechanized equipment reducing the effect of small arms. However, there is a residual fear by government of the people currently armed, to rise up against the police state. That fear is a good one. Obviously, it isn't enough, considering the voter fraud and non-representative legislation going on. The Panama invasion is a good case in point -- there were house-to-house takeovers of residential neighborhoods, where some homes were occupied by armed militia, causing some of the US troops problems. Not for long, of course.