To: KLP who wrote (3415 ) 11/26/2002 9:46:25 PM From: Bilow Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 6901 Hi KLP; Re: "We've seen now what time and patience has brought us over the last 20 years. " We've shown zero patience over the last 20 years. During that time we've consistently supported Israel in their continuing slow moving ethnic cleansing of Palestine, and we've also starved Iraq in a matter brutally reminiscent of the starvation in Germany that ended in mid 1919. Re: "I don't believe that the US needs to have any more Americans kidnapped, tortured, killed, or Embassies, Navy ships, military sites, airlines, or US assets bombed. " If you can point out the perpetrators of these particular acts, or those who are planning them, then I support punishing them. For example, I was vocal in my support of the recent explosion in Yemen. (See #reply-18245898 for my comparison of our actions there with the take down of Bonnie and Clyde.) The problem we get into is when you try to punish a whole people for the actions of just a few. What Vietnam has taught us is that war against a determined enemy on his own territory is doomed to failure unless fought with complete and ruthless determination. Since our enemy, in this case, is more or less evenly dispersed among a billion more or less innocent civilians, a military solution would involve the conquering and occupation that is way beyond our military abilities, and diplomatically, would result in the rest of the world forming an alliance against us. Re: "Radical Islam is a foe who has definitely spoken openly what and why they believe they should do to the US and its citizens. " Yeah, they don't like us. Your point? Let's hear your solution. -- Carl