To: Machaon who wrote (20180 ) 11/29/2002 11:56:24 AM From: zonder Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 27666 As you have said, "It is not that easy". 1) Palestinian terrorist blows up a bus - innocent Israelis and soldiers die. 2) Deaths provoke more support for violence against Palestinians 3) Israeli soldiers blow up a town - innocent Palestinians and terrorists die 4) Deaths provoke more support for violence against Israelis 5) Go to (1) This is an insane vicious circle. A couple of rounds of this and there is no "victimized" side. As for Israelis inflicting more or less the same discrimination and injustice on Palestinians as they went through during WWII, let us listen to Israel's very own soldiers. Take a look at especially (2) and (6):Courage to Refuse - Combatant's Letter 1) We, reserve combat officers and soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces, who were raised upon the principles of Zionism, sacrifice and giving to the people of Israel and to the State of Israel, who have always served in the front lines, and who were the first to carry out any mission, light or heavy, in order to protect the State of Israel and strengthen it. 2) We, combat officers and soldiers who have served the State of Israel for long weeks every year, in spite of the dear cost to our personal lives, have been on reserve duty all over the Occupied Territories, and were issued commands and directives that had nothing to do with the security of our country, and that had the sole purpose of perpetuating our control over the Palestinian people . We, whose eyes have seen the bloody toll this Occupation exacts from both sides. 3) We, who sensed how the commands issued to us in the Territories, destroy all the values we had absorbed while growing up in this country. 4) We, who understand now that the price of Occupation is the loss of IDF’s human character and the corruption of the entire Israeli society. 5) We, who know that the Territories are not Israel, and that all settlements are bound to be evacuated in the end. We hereby declare that we shall not continue to fight this War of the Settlements. 6) We shall not continue to fight beyond the 1967 borders in order to dominate, expel, starve and humiliate an entire people . 7) We hereby declare that we shall continue serving in the Israel Defense Forces in any mission that serves Israel’s defense. 8) The missions of occupation and oppression do not serve this purpose – and we shall take no part in them. seruv.org.il