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To: tejek who wrote (155431)	11/30/2002 9:46:20 PM
From: brian1501	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1579729

I don't understand what you're proposing. I'm not proposing anything, just explaining why I think Muslims are getting the wrap they are. We are a nation in which Christians make up the majority. We also are the most violent developed nation in the world in which at least a portion of that violence is committed by people who were raised as Christians. As Mani suggested, is it the religion or the culture that's responsible? Huh? You are comparing violence in general, to targeting kids with suicide bombers? Sure...it's apples and apples (sarcasm). When you have Muslim religious leaders telling them to attack Americans, that is direct tie in with their religion. I doubt any of the Christians who committed violent acts were told to do so by their religion. The only example that is close would be if the people who bomb abortion clinics were told to do so by their preachers. Even if that did happen, the action and the people who did it would be readily put in the 'kook' column by most Christians. It would seem then, according to your thesis, that its the religion, and that American Christians should be making some sort of apology for all the killing. It's interesting to see how you twist things into utter nonsense. As far as feeling sorry for the Palestinians, I don't. They could have had their own state several times over if they would accept that Israel has a right to exist. They would rather fight and be terrorists than try to live in peace with the Jews. Israel didn't start the war in 1948. Brian

To: tejek who wrote (155431)	11/30/2002 11:07:21 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579729

We also are the most violent developed nation in the world in which at least a portion of that violence is committed by people who were raised as Christians. You're apparently trying to impute upon Christianity some kind of violence in response to my assertion that Islam is violent. The problem with your statement, of course, is that there is no indication of a causal relationship between Christianity today and violence, while there is a clear causal relationship between Islam and violence. In effect, you've drawn a conclusion where no basis for such conclusion exists.

To: tejek who wrote (155431)	12/1/2002 10:27:05 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579729

Is anyone surprised when a wife kills her husband after years of physical and emotional abuse and refusing her right to be free......as horrible as spousal murder is? The crime is not acceptable but it's certainly understandable. The comparison is absurd. An abused wife who kills her abuser-husband is in some way similar to a Palestinian killing an innocent, nameless, faceless school child or other person.

To: tejek who wrote (155431)	12/1/2002 5:18:09 PM
From: Yousef	Respond to of 1579729

Ted, Re: "This list of Israeli wrongs goes on and on. Under these circumstances, is it really that surprising the Palestinians resort to extraordinary means to kill? I certainly don't condone it nor defend it.......its disgusting.......but I certainly understand why its happening." More of your "hypocrisy", Ted ?? ... Sounds like your "understanding" of why it's happening is a defense of the "means". Do you, Ted, believe the "ends" justify the "means" ??!! After all, wasn't it Stalin (or Lenin) that said: "To make an omelet, a few eggs need to be broken". Make It So, Yousef