To: brian1501 who wrote (155442 ) 12/1/2002 12:51:08 AM From: tejek Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1579737 We are a nation in which Christians make up the majority. We also are the most violent developed nation in the world in which at least a portion of that violence is committed by people who were raised as Christians. As Mani suggested, is it the religion or the culture that's responsible? Huh? You are comparing violence in general, to targeting kids with suicide bombers? Sure...it's apples and apples (sarcasm). First, kids are not necessarily targeted by suicide bombers but rather Israelis in general which may well include children just as Israeli missiles are targeting specific targets that may well include Palestinian children. Secondly, I don't have specific numbers but urban violence kills a number of children every year in the US. Many happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time just like with the Israeli and Palestinian children. Apples to apples........I think yes. When you have Muslim religious leaders telling them to attack Americans, that is direct tie in with their religion. I doubt any of the Christians who committed violent acts were told to do so by their religion. The only example that is close would be if the people who bomb abortion clinics were told to do so by their preachers. Even if that did happen, the action and the people who did it would be readily put in the 'kook' column by most Christians. Do you really believe this is the only time in history when Christians have been encouraged to committ violence against others?It would seem then, according to your thesis, that its the religion, and that American Christians should be making some sort of apology for all the killing. It's interesting to see how you twist things into utter nonsense. Utter nonsense? How quickly you neutralized everything I said to nothing. Why is it okay to separate American violence from any religion but determine that it is religion that motivates the Palestinians to violence? As far as feeling sorry for the Palestinians, I don't. They could have had their own state several times over if they would accept that Israel has a right to exist. They would rather fight and be terrorists than try to live in peace with the Jews. Israel didn't start the war in 1948. It wasn't the Palestinians who attacked the Israelis in 1948, and ever since there has never been an opportunity for the Palestinians to have their own state. If you believe otherwise, I would appreciate seeing the link [s] that provides you with that information. TIA. ted