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Strategies & Market Trends : P&S and STO Death Blow's -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Justa Werkenstiff who wrote (17797)	12/2/2002 8:20:17 AM
From: Jeff	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 30712

justa....the thing is....i realized i'm just wasting my time posting here.... i made all those post about AV before i left warning what would happen to shorts.....and i come back to see folks holding shorts since i left and getting toasted.... and nobody followed up on my post on AV....and stepped up and used it...... and i come back and get blamed for missing the boat.....when in fact i had posted already i was out of shorts the first week of november and playing crappers that then exploded.... i'm at a point now of why even post this stuff if everybody just ignores it.....i'm mean everybody saw how d-blow's and P&S worked going down from 1759 to 1108.....why aren't folks here using the opposite to those the AV and upper P&S for bull moves......i don't get it..... this stuff is all happening and has been since early november and folks here were told to watch for it......and nobody did.... just to review a few things.....how many folks just kept getting squeezed short on dumps that kept turning up on them.....thats the rule within AV.....when it bites...the dumps get bought.....and it just keeps doing that till it rolls out.....so to short into AV is suicide.....and yet folks here keep shorting into AV.....and nobody here said anything about it..... crap stocks stayed strong....that only happens in bigger up moves.....and nasdaq could shoot for the 200day ma....it did..... and it was all in this post that obviously got ignored on november 4th...nobody focused on the AV.... Message 18194274 the trailing full sto.....its a silent killer for those on the wrongside or those who ignore it..... Message 18204195 what happened....the slow rolled out.....and the trailing full has been toasting shorts since..... stockcharts.com[h,a]daclynay[db][pc9!c13!c20!d20,2!h.02,.20!c50!c100!c200!c150!b200!c125!c175!f][iLa4,9,5!Lh5,5!Li10,10!Lp14,3,3!Ll4!Lo14!Lb14!Le5,10,1]&pref=G i warned about that trailing full for two weeks as it rode overbought....and it finally comes down and does AV....and folks here still shorting into it and nobody talks about it.... heres classic AV to study..... stockcharts.com[h,a]daclynay[db][pc9!c13!c20!d20,2!h.02,.20!c50!c100!c200!c150!b200!c125!c175!f][iLa4,9,5!Lh5,5!Li10,10!Lp14,3,3!Ll4!Lo14!Lb14!Le5,10,1]&pref=G the full AV's....the full is the strongest because it then gets juiced by fast and slow AV'ing within the the big trend...... another... stockcharts.com[h,a]daclynay[db][pc9!c13!c20!d20,2!h.02,.20!c50!c100!c200!c150!b200!c125!c175!f][iLa4,9,5!Lh5,5!Li10,10!Lp14,3,3!Ll4!Lo14!Lb14!Le5,10,1]&pref=G point is....if you short into full AV....expect to get killed..... Message 18200769 thats what i mean about losing focus.....it was said to watch for this.....it happened.....folks here got toasted and nobody brought this up...... anytime sto's get overbought....AV is a threat to shorts.....shorts will have to also deal with weekly AV sometime in the future now when the market starts dipping....god help any short who shorts a weekly AV.....if you want to lose your ass.....short it... P&S plays.....nobody is mentioning those even though we watched here for months as longs got toasted by being the "sucker" in the bear trend with downside pierces that ramp before they dump to new lows.....the trend changed to bull.......now the upper pierces are in play....and shorts are the "suckers" in those on selloffs that then ramp to higher highs.... then the old bull or bear trend thing..... bear...short ups then longer downs... bull...short downs then longer ups... now focus and put the puzzle together...... AV....parameters within it...dips get bought for positive closes... P&S...sucker selloff before higher highs... and the bull trend rule....short downs longer ups.... and shorts wonder why they got toasted in november as all this was happening..... t-q.....don't know why i bother to mention this but....the other big rallies...i just call them the april and sept 01 rallies..... for the april one....the t-q changed the trend in june.....and in jan for the sept rally.....the second t-q to ice those rallies for good would have got a short and hold from 1930 to 1387 in the april rally....and 1946 to 1108 in the sept rally.... maybe i'm crazy....but i think i'll wait for the t-q to signal this rally as done before i feel good on the shortside again.....till then....daytrade shorts only.....or short a pierce and ride a sucker selloff..... anyway.....folks here learned the power of d-blows....nobody here got hurt by those....they should have saved folks from being long during the big dump this year.... i guess folks now learned the hard way about AV.....maybe next time some here will be prepared for it..... theres two sides to this market.....thoses who only focus on one side better know the warnings signs of the other......and that means shorts better watch for AV just like longs better watch out for d-blows......