Ted Re... clearly stated that the Palestinians rejected the UN partition plan. Please reread my post.
don't worry, I can read. The simple truth is that your last paragraph mentions it in passing. The history of Palestine chronology for 1947 in fact is dominated by the UN resolutions. Here are the listings for 1947
1947
- January: round table conference re-convenes in London.
- February: British foreign minister, E. Bevin, suggests an amendment to the M-G plan and presents it to London conference. Plan rejected by Arab representatives and Jewish Agency.
- February 18: Bevin announces he'll take the problem of Palestine to the United Nations
- April 28 - May 15: UN General Assembly convenes the Palestine session, forms the 11-member UNSCOP committee
- September 8: UNSCOP report published. Majority of its members suggest partition, minority suggest federal solution.
- September 16-19: Arab League denounces partition, forms a committee to help in Palestinian defense needs
- September 26: Arthur Jones, British minister for colonies, announces Britain's decision to end its mandate over Palestine
- September 29: Arab Higher Committee rejects the partition plan.
- October 2: the Jewish Agency accepts the partition plan.
- October 7 - 15: Arab League convenes in Lebanon, warns of Zionist danger after Mandate and allocates a million Sterling Pounds for Palestine
- October 29: Britain announces departure in 6 months if no solution achieved
- November 27: Arab League Committee head report warns of inability of Palestinians to face the Zionist armies without help and organization.
- November 29: UN general Assembly votes on an amended partition plan calling for a 56.5 % of Palestine for a Jewish state, 43 % for a Palestinian one and internationalization of Jerusalem. Votes were 33 for, 13 against, 10 abstinations. Arab representatives left the meeting.
- November 30: The Haganah calls for Jews aged 17 to 25 to enlist for military service
- December: Arab League establishes the "Arab Salvation Army" from Arab non-regular volunteers, headed by Fawzi Qawikji.
- December 2: Palestinians declare a 3-day strike protesting partition. Disturbances result in killing of 6 Palestinians and 8 Zionists/Jews.
- December 8: Britain presents a recommendation to the UN calling for an end of its mandate on Palestine, immediate formation of a Jewish state and a Palestinian state two weeks after.
- December 8 - 17: Arab League political committee declares partition illegal and decides to supply the League Palestine Committee with rifles and volunteers
- December 15: Britain announces it will hand the admin of Tel Aviv/Petah Tikva to the Jews and Yafa to the Palestinians
- December 17: Jewish Agency executive body announces that American Jews should pay 250 million US$ to help the Zionists in Palestine
- December 21 - March 1948: Zionist organizations Irgon and Haganah start coastal ethnic cleansing of Palestinian villages
- December - January 1948: Arab Higher Committee forms local committees to defend Palestinian villages, towns and localities against Zionist cleansing.
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There are 22 separate datelines. Of the 22 only two refer to Zionist armies or cleansing.
November 30: The Haganah calls for Jews aged 17 to 25 to enlist for military service
December 21 - March 1948: Zionist organizations Irgon and Haganah start coastal ethnic cleansing of Palestinian villages
You will note that there is only two listings and only one mention of Zionist cleansing, and that is after Dec. 21st 1947. Meanwhile there are 6 listings for the Arab side, concerning raising an army or fighting..
September 16-19: Arab League denounces partition, forms a committee to help in Palestinian defense needs
October 7 - 15: Arab League convenes in Lebanon, warns of Zionist danger after Mandate and allocates a million Sterling Pounds for Palestine .
November 27: Arab League Committee head report warns of inability of Palestinians to face the Zionist armies without help and organization.
December: Arab League establishes the "Arab Salvation Army" from Arab non-regular volunteers, headed by Fawzi Qawikji.
December 8 - 17: Arab League political committee declares partition illegal and decides to supply the League Palestine Committee with rifles and volunteers
December - January 1948: Arab Higher Committee forms local committees to defend Palestinian villages, towns and localities against Zionist cleansing.
You are trying to make a case for the Jews going around killing pacifist Palestinians who were never given a choice. The truth is that both sides spent 1947 raising an army and arming their citizens. And as the datelines show; the Palestinians were given a chance at statehood, but they turned it down.
Which two sides are you referring to?
the two sides are the Zionist against the Arab league members of Egypt, Syria, Jordan and of course the Palestinian ASA armies.
There was no finalized plan.....it never got that far.
There was no finalized plan because Arafat turned it down. You know very well that most treaties are agreed to, or denied in advance.
Arafat's primary reason for refusing to negotiate further was because Israel refused to withdraw the 370k settlers it had planted in the West Bank during the late 80s and early 90's. That was done under the then Minister of Housing, A. Sharon; that was where they stuck him after he had been found guilty of war crimes by an Israeli military tribunal in the early 80's.
Not so.. AFAIK Barak agreed to dismantle the settlements at some future specified time. In fact, that was the main reason Sharon defeated Baruk in the elections. Most Israelis felt Baruk had given away too much.
As part of the negotiations, Israel wanted those settlements annexed into Israel proper. The UN Partition had already given Israel the best of everything including 56% of Palestine and now, Israel wanted 5-8% more of the land for its new settlements.
That was indeed Israels starting negotiating position. In the final draft. Baruk agree to dismantle most if not all of the settlements eventually. As for the 56%, you should realize that Israels, 56% included the Negev desert. And the most desired town of Jerusalem was to be neutral.
Really? The Koran? To my knowledge the Koran does not discuss the partitioning of Palestine.
And I didn't say that either. I said that the Quran denounces the Jews as infidels, in certain passages. A lot of religions, Catholicism for instance, has offensive languages in some parts of the bible. However the church has downplayed or ignored the passages; such as " An eye for an eye"; instead emphasizing the passages of love and peace amongst men. However the hardline fundamentalist in Islam want to interpret the Quran as against Zionism; therefore they couldn't allow a Zionist state in their midst.
As early as the 1920s, friction began to develop between the Zionists and the Palestinians. During the 30's, that friction grew. Both sides were pushing for independent states.....Britian was the ruling authority. Palestine was one of its colonies. The Brits mucked things up pretty much and tensions grew. By this time, there were open clashes between the Palestinians and the Zionists.
Actually, Britian was given authority over the Palestine by mandate of the League of Nations in 1917. Britian was the predominant power in that area. Britian was to decide what to do with the former colony of the Ottoman empire, which declared bankrupty, and abandoned all of its territories outside of Turkey. Britain decided to partition Palestine after the Balfour declaration, in which UK foreign minister decided the Jews should have a homeland, and Britian controlled the mandate, and because of its historical significance to the Jews.
After WW II, things got even more messy and the Brits handed over the whole partition issue to the UN. The UN proceeded with the British partition plans but the Palestinians balked.........no surprise there. Any fool could see the split was not equitable.
You keep on trying to say the Palestinians got screwed. However Palestine wasn't ever a Palestinian state either. Over its history, Palestine was always under the control of somebody, but the Palestinians. For the last 500 yrs, Palestine was controlled by the Turks, and when the Ottoman empire collapsed, the British took over in 1917, under the auspices of a League of Nations mandate. Like it or not, the Palestinians and their arab allies lost three wars to the Zionists, and with each war, Israel claimed conquered land. To the victors go the spoils. Considering the Palestinian position, as the losers in three wars, Israel giving up 44% of its land to the losers is actually quite reasonable. |
