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To: Ilaine who wrote (341)	12/3/2002 8:17:33 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 15987

The Islamists and Wahhabis don't bother to hide their intentions -- not sure about other versions of Islam, but dhimmitude long predates Wahhab. As far as I'm concerned, both sides would be happy to "eliminate" all presence of the other, were they given free reign... But I imagine Dhimmitude, to the average muslim believer, is about as pertinent to their daily spiritual lives as polygamy is to those of the LDS faith.. Namely they don't disavow it, but neither do they wile away their waking hours contemplating one implementing it. The only folks who would find it pertinent are those religious leaders who have insatiable appetites for power and coercive evangelism. Kinda like those fanatical Christians who advocate launching another crusade to spread the gospel by the sword. Hawk

To: Ilaine who wrote (341)	12/4/2002 10:15:09 AM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

Saddam to defy Bush ultimatum By Anton La Guardia, Diplomatic Editor and Toby Harnden in Washington (Filed: 04/12/2002) Saddam Hussein began a new round of brinkmanship yesterday when his lieutenants said they would tell the United Nations on Saturday that Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction. Tony Blair said such a claim would be a blatant lie. He warned the Iraqi dictator that if he refused to co-operate in any way "he must be disarmed by force". But British and American officials believe privately that Iraq will try to divide the international community by issuing a detailed and ambiguous declaration. In the latest sign of the escalating tensions, Turkey said yesterday that it would open its airbases to US warplanes mounting military operations against Iraq. George W Bush, the US president, told Saddam on Monday that he would be inviting war if he did not provide a complete list of his weapons of mass destruction. Speaking in Louisiana yesterday, he said he had little patience for drawn out inspections and would consider a false declaration a justification for war. "He says he won't have weapons of mass destruction," he said. "He's not only got them, he's used them. The issue is whether or not Mr Saddam Hussein will disarm like he said he would." UN Security Council resolution 1441 demands that Iraq should provide by Sunday a complete declaration of its nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programmes, as well as ballistic missiles. The White House is concerned that an incomplete declaration could still be hailed in Europe as a breakthrough. news.telegraph.co.uk