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To: Ilaine who wrote (3675)	12/4/2002 5:02:17 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

They fanatically play wargames together at least once a week, and when they are not playing wargames there are computer wargames (which, of course, require electricity). Here's an interesting one a friend has gotten me into playing. Perfect for playing by email, and VERY realistic. combatmission.com battlefront.com (link is having some trouble at the moment). They have a free demo your family can "test drive". Hawk

To: Ilaine who wrote (3675)	12/4/2002 5:31:37 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

Hi CobaltBlue; Re: "Every so often he buys me a game that he hopes I will like -- a couple of law related games, even a couple of investment related games. One on foreign exchange looks really interesting." Get this one, a fantastically interesting simulation of business and railroads: lokigames.com Buy it here for only $9.99: microcenter.com And if you don't like it, give it to the guys. Maybe they'll quit playing the bloody stuff and will get interested in this one. One thing that's particularly useful for youth, in terms of education, is that the simulations give you a real sense of what the geographical topology of other countries is. This is because you have to choose routes to build railroads on, and mountains would slow your trains down (and run up the cost of your rails) so as to make your routes unprofitable. The other thing that makes them interesting is that the action of running your railroad is placed in the context of an economic environment which changes how much interest you pay on debt, and how many bonds you can issue. And you can buy and sell stocks, both on your own company and the competitors. There's support on the web for new simulations, so this is far better than the $9.99 price would suggest: persweb.direct.ca -- Carl P.S. What is it about males and trains, planes and automobiles, anyway?

To: Ilaine who wrote (3675)	12/4/2002 5:51:26 PM
From: kumar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

add another reminder - salt bags after you shovel the crap out!

To: Ilaine who wrote (3675)	12/4/2002 5:53:09 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6901

Hmmm. The most violent we get in games is Carrom. Family games here tend to be things like Clue, jigsaw puzzles, hearts, and the like. No death or dismemberment involved. But that does sound more exciting. Maybe we should try some of those. What non-electronic wargames do you sugggest as offering the greatest potential for bloodshed? Kitty litter, definitely. But we always have a plentiful supply anyhow. Actually, truth be told, we're in the process of getting a generator for the house that will handle heat and hot water (oil fired burner, so all we need to power up is the circulating pumps), water pump (we're on a well), fridge and freezer, microwave, and a few house circuits including the library outlets so the computer can continue running. After 20 years of regular power outages, including one a week long without running water (snow melt is NOT pleasant to drink, but it is better than nothing), I'm getting to be a sissy.