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To: Snowshoe who wrote (876)	12/13/2002 2:24:52 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1293

That's not a dispute on national lines, but one between real fishermen and the companies raising those chemical fake-salmon in pens the way they do .... lots of fishermen here disgusted with that too, several of them friends ... oysters you can raise in flats suspended in the water, because they're a critter designed to stick to something and keep themselves clean, but salmon no, they're designed to move continually, in nature all their lives they're moving, you pen them up by the hundreds of thousands in close quarters and the diseases and the sea lice will get them instantly .... so, then you dose them with chemicals and antibiotics .... the feed they give them is saturated with that crap Consumers either don't know or don't care, this is the problem ..... salmon 'farming' should be illegal, for its environmental damage alone, the danger to wild stocks when weird out-of-place species get away, the chemicals etc .... and yes it is depressing prices, i heard at one point this summer pinks were going for twenty cents a pound up Rupert way, that's absurd ... but it's not a national thing, like alaskans taking british columbian fish is ... these guys have many allies here, on the chemical-salmon issue People, if you didn't already know this - Eat only genuine wild salmon.

To: Snowshoe who wrote (876)	12/14/2002 8:50:44 PM
From: E. Charters	Respond to of 1293

(Sigh) Well there is still placer mining. There is lots of gold in Alyeska and gold is up these days. You can tell those poh Brindle folk I will consult and get them into some pay streak. I can even get them into some offshore stuff where they can cast a line over the side from time to timeand reminisce with some of their former friends. Even at 20 cents a pound they still taste good. EC<:-}

To: Snowshoe who wrote (876)	1/14/2004 10:28:38 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1293

Snowshoe, there's a fish farm thread now, an alaskan showed up today - #reply-19690608 When i first started in the woods we were still yarding logs right through salmon creeks, there was zero awareness of the consequences, nobody thought about it ..... well that's probably overstating it, but not by much .... later there come enhancement projects, yarding detritus out of creeks, i got a couple contracts doing this, salmon spawn in those creeks now .... in one case we suspended big old windfall logs over a winding creek, wedged them into the rocks for shade, i must go check them, haven't been back for fifteen years at least Nobody i know thinks you can raise salmon safely in pens .... tilapia yes, ocean-going fish no