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To: Ilaine who wrote (4174)	12/14/2002 3:12:57 PM
From: Condor	Respond to of 6901

but I'd encourage Chris, the boys, and my mother to get immunized. notably absent was your mother in law <g> C

To: Ilaine who wrote (4174)	12/14/2002 5:35:41 PM
From: frankw1900	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

I asked the local public health officer about small pox vaccination risks. One in a million dies and life threatening complications 30 - 35 per million. There are better odds of dying in a traffic accident than of vaccination for small pox.

To: Ilaine who wrote (4174)	12/15/2002 4:22:36 AM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 6901

Hi CobaltBlue; Re: "We know we have some in a lab, and the Russians have some in a lab, and neither of us are going to release it." Like we're not going to release anthrax? Here's a reminder, your own government has already admitted that the anthrax attack was probably domestic: Analysis of the Anthrax Attacks Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, Federation of American Scientists ... The anthrax probe has disclosed an astounding degree of irresponsibility and lack of security at Ft. Detrick, Md., home to the nation's premier existing biodefense laboratory. ... The anthrax investigation has raised questions about the nature and value of the work at Ft. Detrick and has brought to light the granting of security clearance and free access to highly dangerous biological agents to someone with falsified credentials--very disturbing whether or not he turns out to be the perpetrator of the anthrax attacks. ... [FBI letter to ASM] I would like to appeal to the talented men and women of the American Society for Microbiology to assist the FBI in identifying the person who mailed these letters. It is very likely that one or more of you know this individual. A review of the information-to-date in this matter leads investigators to believe that a single person is most likely responsible for these mailings. This person is experienced working in a laboratory. Based on his or her selection of the Ames strain of Bacillus anthracis one would expect that this individual has or had legitimate access to select biological agents at some time. This person has the technical knowledge and/or expertise to produce a highly refined and deadly product. This person has exhibited a clear, rational thought process and appears to be very organized in the production and mailing of these letters. The perpetrator might be described as "stand-offish" and likely prefers to work in isolation as opposed to a group/team setting. It is possible this person used off-hours in a laboratory or may have even established an improvised or concealed facility comprised of sufficient equipment to produce the anthrax. ... [Bush Administration Press Secretary statement] ... MR. FLEISCHER: All indications are that the source of the anthrax is domestic. And I can't give you any more specific information than that. That's part of what the FBI is actively reviewing. And I just can't go beyond that. ... fas.org So I'm not so certain that we're not going to release it. I'm certain that our government isn't going to deliberately leak it, but "our government" doesn't run these labs. They're run by individuals, some of whom are at least a little off center. -- Carl

To: Ilaine who wrote (4174)	12/16/2002 10:30:10 PM
From: Climber	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6901

Hi CB, to the best of anybody's knowledge smallpox isn't a foreseeable threat It wasn't a "forseeable threat" in 1960 when I got my vaccination, either. In fact, the last case of smallpox in America was in 1949. But we got our pin-pricks anyway, because epidemiologically it was the right thing to do to ensure eradication of the disease. I'm not saying we should do general public vaccinations now, but the smallpox threat -- IF weaponized stocks exists -- is far greater today than it was 40 years ago. BTW, the risk of adverse reactions to smallpox vaccine is on the order of 20 times less for previously vaccinated people, e.g. most baby boomers. Cheers, Climber (sources: CDC and Oregon Health Sciences University)