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To: Elsewhere who wrote (4231)	12/16/2002 8:56:46 AM
From: Condor	Respond to of 6901

A buddy of mine who is somewhat older tells me that in his youth he worked at a bush logging camp for awhile (he was about 10 yrs. old) during the latter part of WW 11 and his dad was the bull cook. The camp housed a crew of German POWs. He said they were treated as regular crew. They were no guards or such. He said that they were far in the bush and the prospects of escaping were dubious and they would still be on the wrong continent. He said that they weren't about to run away because their situation was good and they were plenty happy to be out of the foray and await the end of the war. Many years after some would come back and visit the old site of the camp and visit some of the people who they befriended. Apparently they were friendly and good workers and mingled with no problems. He remembers many a checkers game with them on cold winter nights. The camp is about 20 miles from where I live now. My chum loves to tell the story of when he was a little kid how his Dad traded him for a pig, but that's another story. :o) C

To: Elsewhere who wrote (4231)	12/16/2002 5:37:47 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

Hi Jochen Jansen; Whenever I feel sorry for myself, I reread this book: The Forgotten Soldier Guy Sajer ... Guy Sajer provides the most compelling first hand descriptions of the German war with Soviet Russia ever written - bar none. Sajer, a French national, serves in the elite Grossdeutschland Panzergrenadier Divison in the dark days of the war, long after the marching songs have faded and the long retreat has begun. His miraculous story combined with the lively descriptions of his comrades provides a gripping description of survival in the greatest military maelstrom of our time. That Sajer survived the great battles of encirclement and the pitiless weather is a testament to the vagaries of war. As a German historian I heartily recommend this book to military afficianadoes and tyros alike. search.barnesandnoble.com He was a Frenchman but since one of his parents was German, he was drafted into the German Army, and sent to the Russian front. It reminds one of the Tolkien books. But instead of returning to a civilization that ignored his wartime travails, Guy Sajer returned to one that reviled his membership in the SS. -- Carl