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To: JohnM who wrote (62197)12/17/2002 7:26:22 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I had just read the Hersh article, and was going to post about it, when I see you beat me to it. It is amazing how you and I read the same story, and see it so differently. You see it as Rummy running amuck, I see it as Rummy trying to get those Pentagon Princes off the dime. I was really surprised that Hersh was a nice to Rummy as he was, given his general dislike of this administration. It shows that he understands the problem.

First off, a "Side Bar" the "Grey Fox" operation. Just what we need, another "Special Ops" group, but I can see why Rummy wanted it. I googled this.

>>>>>Office of the Secretary of Defense resurrection of the old Intelligence Support Activity (ISA), now dubbed "Grey Fox" and proposed for institutionalization as the Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group, (P2OG)--in layman's terms, an organization that will go all over the world poking bees' nests and then trying to kill the individual bees. <<<<

Rumsfeld wants "hunter-killer teams,"and the present Brass is horrified.

What we have here is an Al Queda Organization, with about 500 top people that need to be killed or capured, and a Four Star Air Force General running "Special Ops" that refuses to come up with a plan to get them. On top of that, the rest of the "Pentagon Princes" agree with him. "Couldn't do that, Wouldn't be Prudent." The Defense Department is supposed to be in the business of killing people, but you would think they were Harvard Academics when you see their reaction to being asked to go to war.

I have been reading for years that our Military Personnel System is promoting the wrong people, and this sure confirms it.

Hersh waves the "Bloody Flag" of the "Pheonix Operation" but not too hard. He knows that the after action feedback from the Vietnamese is that "Pheonix" was highly effective against them during the war.

I love this quote: "The worst way to organize for the manhunt . . . is to have it planned in the Pentagon. . . . Our prerequisite of perfection for 'actionable intelligence' has paralyzed us."

Sound like Carter's incursion into Iran? "New Tree, Same Monkeys!"



To: JohnM who wrote (62197)12/17/2002 8:26:18 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
THOUGHTS ON THE FOREVER WAR

By Doug Casey
The Daily Reckoning
Baltimore, Maryland
Tuesday, 17 December 2002
dailyreckoning.com

I hope I'm totally wrong on this, but I've got a feeling
what's brewing is the biggest thing since at least World
War II. The historical clock looks to me like it's at about
1936. Straws in the wind are starting to signal a brewing
hurricane. How much of the following were you aware of?
Excuse the editorial content if you disagree with my
interpretation; I take this seriously.

The current U.S. military budget is $396 billion, and it's
expanding rapidly. That's roughly $5000 for every household
in the U.S. But what's more relevant is how it stacks up
relative to other countries in the world with militaries.
And the fact is that it's significantly more than the
combined budgets of every other country in the world, which
is even more bizarre when you consider that the U.S. has
only 4% of the world's population.

For your reference, here are the next largest military
budgets: Russia $60 billion; China $42 billion; Japan $40.4
billion; United Kingdom $34 billion; Saudi Arabia $27.2;
France $25.3 billion; Germany $21 billion; Brazil $17.9
billion; India $15.6 billion; Italy $15.5 billion; South
Korea $11.8 billion; Iran $9 billion; Israel $9 billion;
Taiwan $8.2 billion.

These numbers give a lie to the whole U.S. war on terror.
Israel, which is actually surrounded by enemy states while
simultaneously fighting a guerrilla war within its borders,
only spends $9 billion. France and Britain, which have
close historical connections to scores of ex-colonies who
are a constant tribulation (e.g., the Ivory Coast),
together only spend a fraction of the US budget. Where does
the money go? I don't think anybody has actually figured it
out. But 75% of it would be totally unnecessary if the U.S.
government recalled the troops from well over 100 countries
around the world where they're antagonizing the natives.

The U.S. is, in effect, in an arms race against itself. And
the problem of having a powerful military is similar to
that of having a big hammer: pretty soon, everything starts
looking like a nail.

Of course, not all U.S. military spending goes directly to
the U.S. military.

The U.S. gave $1 billion in aid to Somalia before its
disastrous "peace-keeping" mission in 1991 - including $154
million in weapons. It's estimated that the U.S. Government
gave the Taliban and other Afghan rebels about $3 billion
in military aid to fight the Soviets. And you certainly
won't hear Bush admitting that in 2001 alone, before the
911 attacks made the Afghans the Devil of the Month, the
U.S. government gave the Afghan regime $125 million in aid.
I haven't seen the numbers for the amount of support to
Saddam while Iraq fought the Iranians during the 80s. But
the Iranians were armed almost exclusively with American
weapons left over from the Shah's regime. It might be
called "the boomerang effect."

Passing out weapons to repressive regimes on the principle
that "my enemy's enemy must be my friend" is a proven
formula for disaster.

"In the war against terrorism," said Bush, "we're going to
hunt down these evil-doers wherever they are, no matter how
long it takes."

Of course, if the war is really against terrorism, Bush
needn't send the military to the worlds nether regions to
find miscreants at huge risk and expense. He could start
right here in the U.S.:

** General Jose Guillermo Garcia has lived in Florida since
the 1990s. He was head of El Salvador's military during the
1980s when death squads closely linked to the army murdered
thousands of people.

** General Prosper Avril, the Haitian dictator, liked to
display the bloodied victims of his torture on television.
When he was overthrown, he was flown to Florida by the U.S.
government.

** Thiounn Prasith, Pol Pot's henchman and apologist at the
U.N., lives in Mount Vernon, NY.

**General Mansour Moharari, who ran the Shah of Iran's
notorious prisons, is wanted in Iran, but is untroubled in
the U.S.

** General Pervez Musharraf, the current dictator of
Pakistan, who overthrew a democratically elected
government, might easily join that list if he's ever
deposed by a coup. Maybe at some point soon, considering
that Islamicist parties dominated the county's recent
parliamentary elections.

If charity starts at home, one thing the U.S. might do
(even before trying to close down al Qaeda training camps)
is to close down the School of the Americas at Fort
Benning, Georgia, which has trained about 60,000 Latin
American police and soldiers. It's well known that among
the techniques recommended for use against insurgents in
its manuals are blackmail, torture, execution and the
arrest of the suspect's relatives. Those techniques would
be called "terror" if they weren't exercised by U.S.
"allies."

The Washington Post ran an interesting article about
something called The Expeditionary Task Force, a 1,500-man
unit of former Bolivian soldiers that is totally funded,
fed, clothed and armed by the U.S. Embassy in that country.
This is a first in the War on Drugs, even though it's taken
a back seat to the War on Terror. The U.S. is paying the
soldiers about $100 a month, which is 50% more than they
got in the army; make a note in case you want your own
private army. These guys go running around the jungle
destroying the crops of the local farmers, and occasionally
torturing, maiming, and murdering a few. The indigenes
don't like it, are well aware of who's putting the Task
Force up to it, and have long memories. You can bet a real
guerrilla war will, at some point, blossom in Bolivia as a
result. On the bright side, though, hiring local soldiers
is a lot cheaper, and much lower profile, than using
Americans. And you don't really have to care who gets
killed.

I presume you've heard of the Ashcroft Justice Departments
TIPS (Terrorism Information and Prevention System) program,
a part of the larger Bush "Citizen Corps" initiative. The
Citizen Corps is something of a volksturm for busybodies
who are too alt, lame, or chicken to hunt al Qaeda members
personally in Afghanistan, or wherever. TIPS is a scheme
asking Americans (particularly those like mail carriers,
cable guys, truckers, utility workers - but anybody can
enroll at their website at www.citizencorps.gov/tips.html)
to sign up to report "suspicious activities" on the part of
others. My understanding is that the program was supposed
to go into effect in August, but has been shelved (largely
due to the vigilance of the ACLU), despite having already
recruited over a million wannabe snitches.

Ultimately, TIPS was, or is, supposed to have 12 million
members turning in their observations via a hotline to a
network of intelligence "reporting centers". Press reports
I read seemed to indicate that it was an "overwhelmingly
popular concept" among the hysterical hoi polloi, at least
as far as a London Telegraph reporter could determine.
Boobus americanus made comments like (I kid you not):

"I think the critics are making a big mistake. I would be
happy to do some spying. I would love to do something to
help America," Wilma Silva, postwoman.

"Yes, I sure would join this operation. I would be very
happy to keep an eye on suspicious activities and
suspicious people, and I would not feel uncomfortable about
it at all." Douglas Hannah, Coca-Cola truck driver.

"We need to do this. We need to watch for them, watch for
anything out of the ordinary. And you know what? If you
have done nothing wrong, you don't have to worry about
being spied on." Arpad Dozzy, FedEx delivery man.

Americans have often wondered where the Germans were able
to recruit all the people who staffed the Gestapo and the
SS. The fact is, however, that sociopaths, sociopath
sympathizers, the weak-kneed, and the easily-led form a
standard distribution across all societies, in all times.
We have just as many in America now as the Germans did in
the 1930s. Maybe even more, since Americans have been
corrupted by welfare and programmed by the public schools
and the mass media for several generations more than were
the Germans of that time. Your local TIPS snitch might
report that you "fail to display sufficient respect for
authority." Or maybe he'll write down that you "laugh upon
hearing the phrase 'homeland security'." Think I'm kidding?
Try making a joke in an airport.

The popular response to the TIPS program is proof that the
time is now right for the creepy-crawlies to emerge from
under their rocks. That neighbor who's got a kid, and a
dog, and plays ball of a Saturday may have exactly the same
dark side as the German who always politely shopped at a
Jewish deli, but then broke its windows when Kristalnacht
came.

One scary and hysterical government measure that hasn't
been shelved was the activation of 300 Army National Guard
tank battalions as part of a homeland defense force, as
part of a strategy calling for the domestic use of U.S.
military forces. Reuters reported that, in his July 20
speech, Bush said that tank battalions "will serve in the
homeland defense role within the United States." I'd like
to know how, exactly, tanks will be employed within the
U.S.

Possibly worse, Bush activated about 1,000 Special Forces
units for possible deployment around the country to assist
in searches for suspicious people "in support of the war on
terrorism," Reuters said. I find the use of the military
within the U.S. abhorrent, but especially Special Forces.
Their whole raison d'être is counter-insurgency, and their
approach is one of "anything goes." Soldiers aren't
trained, like cops, to warn people of their rights, defuse
situations, minimize force, and adhere to strict rules of
conduct. And Special Ops soldiers are, in fact, trained to
do just the opposite. Of course, maybe the distinction is
becoming blurred because most cops today are ex-military.
But that's another story.

Of course, all this makes the Posse Comitatus Act, which
prohibits the use of the military in law enforcement, a
dead letter. That doesn't bother me; it's just another
arbitrary law, albeit one I agree with. But I can tell you
that one thing I used to like about America was there were
no armed soldiers on the streets, making the country look
like it was in a state of siege, like so many places I've
been in the Third World.

What's really scary, though, is the way it ties in with
Ashcroft's stated desire to set up "domestic internment
camps" for U.S. citizens that are accused of being "enemy
combatants." It would appear the way this game is played is
that if you're accused of being part of this new class of
criminal, you can forget about your rights; you're locked
up for the duration.

The reactivity, and utter lack of principle, of the Baby
Bush regime is underlined by the creation of a Department
of Homeland Security. And that...entirely apart from the
fact that its $37 billion budget will compete with the FBI,
CIA, NSA and other bloated and dangerous bureaucracies as
Praetorian Guard wannabees.

Sincerely,

Doug Casey,
for The Daily Reckoning

P.S. Just for the record, look at the Cabinet level
departments created over the last 40 years. Why should
Homeland Security be any different from any of these
disasters - except that it's got a lot more power, and its
employees carry guns:

1965, Housing and Urban Development, budget $31 billion,
which is mainly responsible for the creation of vertical
ghettos, and the destruction of the inner cities in
general...

1966, Transportation, budget $61 billion, the bane of the
transportation industry...

1977, Energy, budget $19 billion, which has never produced
a barrel of oil...

1979, Education, budget $48 billion, the running dog of the
corrupt NEA trade union, whose creation coincides with a
collapse in the education system...

1988, Veterans Affairs, budget $52 billion, the agency
every veteran I've ever met would like to launch an air
strike against...

P.P.S. I know some pundits are saying this is already the
longest bear market in history - which is nonsense. And I'm
not just talking about the 12 year Japanese bear market.
Entirely apart from that, bear markets historically tend to
linger for about half the length of the proceeding bull,
which was 18 years in this case.

The explosive 1000 point rallies we see are evidence
there's actually still a lot of bullish sentiment out
there. I don't think it's going to be over until we see 6-
8% dividend yields everywhere, a great decline in the
number of mutual funds, and low trading volumes. And not
only won't there be bullish articles in McPaper [USAToday],
there won't even be bearish articles. There won't be any
articles on stocks, because nobody is going to want to hear
about stocks at all.

People's attention is likely to be much more focused on
news from the latest front in The Forever War.



To: JohnM who wrote (62197)12/18/2002 12:51:15 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Blair for President

By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Columnist
The New York Times
December 18, 2002

With Al Gore now out of the presidential race, everyone is giving the Democrats advice on who their candidate should be. All I know is that whoever the Democrats choose needs to keep in mind a few basic rules that Democrats have forgotten in recent years.

Rule #1: People listen through their stomachs. The key to the success of any presidential candidate is to convey to voters — in a way they can feel in their gut — that you as a leader know what world they're living in. George Bush Sr. lost to Bill Clinton because he failed to convey to voters in their gut that he knew what world they were living in — a world of rising economic insecurity.

Mr. Clinton's campaign conveyed through one phrase, "It's the economy, stupid," that he knew exactly what world people were living in; and because of that, they were ready to overlook his foibles. Connect with people's gut concerns and they'll go anywhere with you — without asking for the details. Don't connect, and you'll never be able to show people enough details to get them to follow.

George W. Bush has conveyed to Americans in their gut that he understands exactly what world they're living in now — a world threatened by terrorism in which, as the former N.S.C. adviser Sandy Berger put it, "national security is now personal security." In this new world, Mr. Bush has been a warrior without mercy. No Democratic leader has — yet — forged such a gut connection with the American people on this issue.

Rule #2: Never put yourself in a position where you succeed only if your country fails. The Democrats can't just wait for Mr. Bush to fail in Iraq, or hope the economy collapses, and assume they will benefit. People want to hear a positive alternative agenda. There can be a hard-nosed Democratic alternative. It is one that would say, "Yes, let's win the war on terrorism, but that requires a multi-pronged approach that addresses all our vulnerabilities and levels with the American people."

Right now the Bush bumper sticker reads: "You Can Have It All: Guns, Butter, War With Iraq, Tax Cuts & Humvees." This is nonsense. America has never won a war without the public's being enlisted and summoned to sacrifice. Is there a Democrat ready to push for a crash oil conservation program and development of renewable energy alternatives — that would also respond to European anger over Kyoto? Is there a Democrat ready to take on our absurd farm subsidies and textile tariffs that help keep countries like Pakistan poor by keeping them hooked on aid, not trade? Is there a Democrat ready to take on the far-right Bush forces, which are now trying to undermine all U.S. support for global population controls? (Just what we need: more failed states with exploding populations.)

Is there a Democrat ready to say we don't need more long-term tax cuts, which will only produce chronic large deficits that will reduce resources for both homeland security and Head Start? And our economy doesn't need more short-term tax stimulus either — it needs a successful war on terrorism. The economy is recovering slowly on its own. What's holding it back now are fears about terrorism and war with Iraq, which keep oil prices high and investment low. The minute those are resolved, you will see consumers ready to spend and companies ready to invest.

Rule #3: Get a candidate people like. I don't know George Bush, and I do not like his domestic policies. But I find him hard to dislike. The "likability factor" is hugely underestimated in politics.

Rule #4: Get a candidate who can give a fireside chat. In these confusing times, people crave a leader who can explain why we're doing what we're doing and how it will lead to a better world. That is what the Democrats need. Mr. Bush conveys a lot of sincerity, but he lacks the emotional or intellectual depth to really reassure people. I'm convinced that one reason for his high poll ratings is projection: We desperately want to believe that he knows what he is doing, and that he is always acting in the best interests of the nation — and not on naked political considerations — because if he isn't, we're all sunk.

Right now there is only one Democrat who could live up to all these rules: the British prime minister, Tony Blair. Maybe the Democrats should give him a green card. He's tough on national security, he has an alternative global vision, people like him and he is a beautiful, reassuring speaker. He's Bill Clinton without baggage. I'd say he's a natural.

nytimes.com



To: JohnM who wrote (62197)12/18/2002 1:01:49 AM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
You asked for books....

I must say from the start that most of my initial reading and all of my acquisition of books on this subject was conducted in the late '70s and early ‘80s. I’m not that familiar with what’s been published since.

I can second Nadine’s suggestion of Collins and LaPierre’s O Jerusalem. It’s told from a strongly pro-Zionist viewpoint, but the bias is open and the book gives a good feel for the landscape, at least in ’48.

My own suggestions:

If you had to read just one (never a good idea, but you have to start somewhere), a good start would be Michael Cohen’s The Origins and Evolution of the Arab-Zionist Conflict. Not perfect (nothing is), but a solid way of getting on the page and placing things in context.

For deep background, trust the queen of the easy-read overview, Barbara Tuchman. Bible and Sword is her first book, and almost touching in its pro-Zionist bias (you just have to overlook the unqualified references to “God’s ancient people”, etc.). It is a solid way, though, of getting a handle on the pre-Balfour scene, and the exhaustive treatment of the peculiar relationship between Great Britain and the idea of a Zionist restoration is well worth the trouble.

Probably the single best source, if you can find it, is Palestine Papers, 1917-1922, collected and annotated by Doreen Ingrams. There is no substitute for period sources, and Ingrams collected many of the most relevant. Pity it’s long out of print, should be more widely read. In the same category would be Arabs and Zionism Before World War One by Neville Mandel. Good book, good luck with finding one. Of course you’re near NYC, no? In New York all things are possible, at least where looking for books is concerned.

Essential reading: Herzl’s The Jewish State. Fortunately available on the web, at:

mideastweb.org

Herzl’s Collected Diaries are a fascinating glimpse at the man’sprivate thoughts, and a good look at the thoughts he didn’t discuss publicly.

Chaim Weizman’s Trial and Error… Biased, of course, but the man was in the middle of it and it’s worth reading what he had to say.

Another good web resources is UNIPAL’s collection of UN documents related to Palestine, which includes all of the reports of the High Commissioner and many other documents. Prodigious amounts of political self-applause, of course, but worth a look between the lines:

un.org

If you can find them – some libraries do have them buried away on microfilm – the reports of the Haycraft, Peel, Shaw, and Hope-Simpson Commissions are a revelation. There is nothing quite like reading the words of those who were on the spot.



To: JohnM who wrote (62197)12/18/2002 1:11:42 AM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
In the aftermath of September 11th, however, the targeting and killing of individual Al Qaeda members without juridical process has come to be seen within the Bush Administration as justifiable military action in a new kind of war

I hate to say it, but on this I agree with the Administration. I don't like it, but I see no way around it. We didn't choose the terms of this war, the terrorists did. If they want to hide in the midst of a civilian population, we have to go in after them. If the countries where they are hiding won't or can't do the job, it is better for us to go in and do it ourselves than to try and take over every one of those governments and install governments that will cooperate.

The grim reality of this, also, is that sooner or later this same policy will have to be applied outside the Middle East. There will come a time when people in Europe and the US will have to be killed or kidnapped, if the terrorist organizations are to be successfully dismantled. Yes, this is illegal, and yes, it will make a mess. It won't make nearly as big a mess as leaving the terrorists alone would, though, and it won't make nearly as big a mess as declaring war on governments only peripherally related to terrorism.

The terrorists can function without support from any given government. They cannot function, particularly outside their own bases, without their key administrative and logistic support staff. These are our targets, and we have to do what is necessary to destroy them.



To: JohnM who wrote (62197)12/18/2002 4:04:43 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
Part two of Kelly's articles analyzing Media Bias. Again, John, you will be surprised at the article and the conclusion.

washingtonpost.com

Left Everlasting (Cont'd)

By Michael Kelly

Wednesday, December 18, 2002;

The question posed in my previous column -- "Does a (still) largely liberal news media (still) exhibit a largely liberal bias?" -- can be answered both as a matter of logic and as a matter of fact, and in both cases, the answer is: Sure.

As to logic: "The essential argument by the media is that, yes, most mainstream journalists may be left of center, but they operate in the tradition of objectivity, so this doesn't affect their coverage of the news," notes S. Robert Lichter, president of the independent Center for Media and Public Affairs. "What this argument fails to grasp is the way bias works in people. Yes, journalists tell the truth -- but, like everyone else, they tell the truth as they see it."

As Lichter has written, "Even the most conscientious journalists cannot overcome the subjectivity inherent in their profession, which is expressed through such everyday decisions as whether a topic is newsworthy or a source trustworthy."

To this, we journalists argue that we -- unique among humans -- are able to see the world and its events free from the prejudices of our own vantage points. How can this be? Because, we say, of our professional training and discipline.

But we don't have any professional training or discipline. Journalism is not a profession in the sense of medicine or law or science. Journalists do not go through years of brutal academic apprenticeship designed to inculcate adherence to an agreed-upon code of ethics (such as the Hippocratic oath) or an agreed-upon method of truth-determining (such as the method of scientific inquiry). We are not required to meet any standards of knowledge. We are not certified. We operate under no mandated professional set of rules. We need not even be decently educated, as consumers of news frequently notice.

And even if we really were trained professionals, we still would not be able to attain the godlike ability to perceive and present the "objective" truth on all matters that come before us. Because we are, in fact, not unique among humans.

As to fact: In 17 years of news content analysis, especially of network evening news broadcasts, Lichter's Center for Media and Public Affairs has consistently found evidence of liberal bias, and this has not changed in the past few years.

Some recent findings from content analyses of the nightly network newscasts:

? In the 2000 presidential election, both candidates received mostly negative press, and largely to the same degree: George W. Bush received only 37 percent positive coverage; Al Gore, only 40 percent. By contrast, Bill Clinton received far more positive coverage than his Republican opponents in 1996 and 1992 (in '96, 50 percent positive to Bob Dole's 33 percent; in '92, 52 percent to George H.W. Bush's 29 percent). In the past six presidential elections, coverage favored the Democrat in three, and both the Democrat and the Republican received negative coverage in three ('80, '88 and '00). In none did the coverage favor the Republican.

? "Only 43 percent of all on-air evaluations of George W. Bush were favorable" in Bush's first 100 days in office (compared with a similarly negative 40 percent for Clinton in his first 100). In his first 50 days, Bush received 48 percent positive coverage, but only 36 percent was positive in his second 50. Only 29 percent of on-air evaluations from nonpartisan sources (anchors, reporters, experts, citizens) were positive to Bush.

? Bush did get a terrific bounce from the rallying effect of Sept. 11. From that day through Nov. 19, 2001, Bush "received the most positive coverage ever measured for a president over an extended period of time'' -- 64 percent positive to 36 percent negative. But Bush's high of 77 percent positive that September was down to 59 percent within two months.

? Coverage of the Bush administration's consideration of a military strike against Iraq, as seen in the network newscasts and in front-page New York Times stories from this July 1 through Aug. 25, was 72 percent negative.

Is there nothing at all to the liberal complaint? No, there is something. As the above data suggest, the media are generally more negative toward public figures (including Democratic ones) than they used to be. And while right-leaning media such as talk radio have not, as my colleague E.J. Dionne argues, produced "a media heavily biased toward conservative politics and conservative politicians," they have produced a media universe where anti-establishment right-wingers (and also anti-establishment left-wingers, such as Michael Moore) are able to bypass the establishment media and to create a far more diverse national conversation.

To those long used to a media controlled by, and "news" defined by, their own largely liberal and establishmentarian views, this can seem unfair and wrong -- but this is a case of "been up so long, it seems like down to me," as Lichter puts it. I think to most people it seems more like democracy.