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To: LindyBill who wrote (62866)12/23/2002 3:36:13 AM
From: paul_philp  Respond to of 281500
 
LindyBill,

Thanks for the Wolfowitz commentary. It was good to hear his voice since his shadow is ever present. I guess he took the fangs, horns and claws off long enough to type up a short piece.

The last sentence is key:


It is hard to believe that the liberation of the talented people of one of the most important Arab countries in the world from the grip of one of the world's worst tyrants will not be an opportunity for Americans and Arabs and other people of goodwill to begin to move forward on the task that the president has described as "building a just and peaceful world beyond the war on terror."


There is more to Iraq than meets the eye these days.

Paul



To: LindyBill who wrote (62866)12/23/2002 8:08:20 AM
From: tekboy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
fascinating that he felt compelled to write that. it's fine, of course, and well put. but I personally continue to believe that the original article was probably accurate, and that he's spinning here. Of course, so are his opponents: most of them don't really want to go to war at all, and are using dissents during the planning as a tactic to block things. One of the problems in this game is that you can't always take people's comments at face value--but at the same time you can't let such duplicity undermine the potential validity of the comments themselves...

tb@mirrorswithinmirrors.com



To: LindyBill who wrote (62866)12/23/2002 1:12:17 PM
From: Rollcast...  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Saudis Alter Promise to Help Afghans
Officials Offer $30 Million Rebuilding Loan, Deny Earlier $50 Million Pledge

washingtonpost.com

By Marc Kaufman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 22, 2002; Page A31

With criticism growing that the international effort to rebuild Afghanistan was flagging earlier this year, President Bush was eager to announce that the United States, Japan and Saudi Arabia had agreed to donate $180 million toward the troubled effort to reconstruct the main Afghan highway.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai was at his side at the United Nations when Bush declared in September that the United States would donate $80 million and the two other countries would each give $50 million to build the road, which Karzai had called his top reconstruction priority.

Three months later, that promising beginning has turned acrimonious, as one of the announced partners apparently has changed its mind about its contribution.

According to U.S. and Afghan officials, the Saudi offer to give $50 million for the road repair has been changed to the offer of a low-interest loan of $30 million. But because Afghan officials are unwilling to take on national debt, they have rejected the Saudi offer, and the road-building project has slowed as a result.

"We are very disappointed that [the Saudis] have done this and that it has not been resolved or rectified," said Haron Amin, deputy chief of mission of the Afghan Embassy in Washington.

"It not only creates problems for construction of the road, but it sends a bad signal to the international community. This sends the entirely wrong message," he said.

Saudi officials declined to comment on the issue. U.S. officials, however, said, there appeared to be disagreement between Saudi officials in the United States and officials in the Saudi capital about the size and nature of their contribution.

The current impasse on the road-building funds is made more charged by the recent history of Saudi financial assistance -- both official and private -- for the former Taliban rulers of Afghanistan. The Saudis were key supporters of the Taliban as they came to power in the mid-1990s, and helped fund many of the Pakistani madrassahs, or religious schools, from which the Taliban sprang.

The issue is a sensitive one for the Bush administration, as well, because of its own complicated relations with the Saudis after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and officials were reluctant to publicly discuss the dispute over the road-building money.

The U.S. Agency for International Development made clear last month, however, that there was a problem. In a progress update, the agency wrote that "Saudi Arabia still maintains the offer was a $30 million concessional loan, not a $50 million grant."

Western diplomats said last week that the issue remained unresolved, and that the United States was "leaning hard" on the Saudis to keep to the $50 million commitment. They said that the Saudi contribution was "memorialized" in a document that made clear the money would be in grant form, not as a loan.

According to U.S. officials, the difficulties with the Saudi money have had no impact on the U.S. road-building effort in Afghanistan. Road construction is now underway south of Kabul and will continue there until weather conditions make it impossible, according to Nicholas Masucci, CEO of the Louis Berger Group. That New Jersey firm recently was granted the contract to oversee the U.S. contribution to the road building.

The 600-mile highway, which runs south from Kabul to Kandahar, and then northwest to Herat, is the main road in Afghanistan. It was built with U.S. and Soviet help before the Afghan wars began, and has greatly deteriorated over the years. Karzai has said that reconstruction of the main highway is essential to jump-start the Afghan economy, and to show that foreign donors are serious about helping Afghanistan.

With suspicions about Saudi Arabia running high, some members of Congress quickly criticized the Saudis for their apparent turnaround on the Afghan road.

"While the Saudi regime supports dubious charities with alleged ties to terrorists, it shortchanges vital reconstruction projects in Afghanistan, a nation which has been ravaged by terrorists," said Rep. Tom Lantos (D-Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the House International Relations Committee. " It is outrageous that the wealthy Saudi regime is unwilling to provide meaningful assistance to a poor Muslim nation that has suffered so much."

U.S. officials have complained that many nations that pledged rebuilding funds for Afghanistan have been slow to deliver the money or to implement their programs.

© 2002 The Washington Post Company



To: LindyBill who wrote (62866)12/23/2002 6:08:27 PM
From: KLP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
No course open to the United States is free of risk. The question is how to weigh the risks of action against the risks of inaction and to be fully aware of both.

There are some peole who just don't want to believe that the above is simply the way we MUST think today. Some believe if we continue to ignore the problem, it will go away.