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To: Rob S. who wrote (156792)	12/27/2002 2:10:21 AM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1580034

and now we get Bush rampaging around the world to create America in his own image. I see no indication that Bush wants to "create America in his own image". I assume you mean he desires to shove an American-styled government down the throats of Iraqis and North Koreans, yet there has been no indication of that whatsoever. While the administration has shown a clear interest in eliminating the current dictatorships, there is absolutely no reason to suspect we would do anything other than what we're doing in Afghanistan, and that certainly is not the way you've characterized Bush's intent. Just last week Rumsfeld was careful to avoid the notion that an American-styled democracy in Iraq was required (stating only that some form of government under which Iraqi people had a voice was critical). The reality is that we need for the world to be a safer place. That cannot be accomplished with the current leadership of either Iraq or North Korea. Eliminating these threats seems like "nation-building" to soem; the reality is it is self-defense. Now it looks like they will end up with at least 12 more in the near term and over 90 during the next five years. How is that for progress? Who are you going to blame for this? It is clearly a result of the gross incompetence of the Clinton administration, coupled with the well-intentioned, gross incompetence of Jimmy Carter. These weak figures structured a deal that was unverifiable, trusting totally untrustworthy foreign governments, and as a result have been directly responsible for what may end up being the worst incident of nuclear proliferation in history. That you would somehow suggest Bush's culpability conveys only your ignorance of the subject. You and I would surely never agree on these subjects. Only history can resolve these differences. It is crystal clear to me that we are seeing a failed Clinton foreign policy coming home to roost. It is, further, impossible for me to comprehend how anyone can attribute these Clinton failures to Bush. I don't believe any intellectually honest evaluation of the facts and circumstances could lead to such a conclusion.

To: Rob S. who wrote (156792)	12/27/2002 2:59:59 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1580034

That won't change the simple fact that America is over reacting militarily. Terrorism is primarily not a military problem. It's an intelligence and security problem. It will be with the U.S. for decades and will take thousands of "victories" . . mostly of small actions at borders, in the shadows of intelligence gathering, and on diplomatic fronts. That's exactly right. The problem for Bush is this kind of "underground" warfare isn't very exciting, and doesn't provide the necessary political fuel his party would like. So he goes around threatening one country after another. In fact, he has stirred up the pot so much world wide, countries I last read about in school are threatening us. What a mess! ted