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To: American Spirit who wrote (63656)12/30/2002 4:53:12 PM
From: William B. Kohn  Respond to of 281500
 
please I give up. Kerry is a saint. take it somewhere else, I cannot stand 2 years of this kind of domestic stuff on this thread! Please.



To: American Spirit who wrote (63656)12/30/2002 4:58:44 PM
From: aladin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
AS,

We try not to get into heated domestic political discussions on this thread. Whether Kerry is a great leader can be decided on another thread - its easy to start one. We can probably debate there on the probability of a liberal New Englander getting elected to the Presidency.

On this issue of North Korean nukes, do you actually think these were developed since the Bush administration took office? Or is it just since the 'Axis of Evil' speach? Or have you sufficiently forgotten the facts to actually think they started their weapons production after we cut off oil?

The facts are clear here - we signed a (bad) treaty with the DPRK in 1994 and agreed to supply food and fuel oil and permits allowing Japanese firms to build 2 light water nuclear reactors (which require US permission - not funds). It was also abundantly clear the North Koreans were doing as much as possible to evade these restrictions and Clinton hightened our intelligence on them after they test-fired missiles over Japan. Now I will admit that at the time the '94 treaty looked good and I supported it - I just was misguided in thinking we had some ability for verification.

With their economy in turmoil they have been peddling their technology everywhere - and especially in the mid-east.

When confronted by US negotiators on this (in October) - they essentially said 'screw you' and expected us to continue funding them.

This was their miscalculation.

BTW - we have not cut off food aid.

John



To: American Spirit who wrote (63656)12/30/2002 5:13:42 PM
From: Still Rolling  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
This was posted earlier but bears re-posting.

The Congressional Report below from November 1999 makes it
crystal clear that North Korea's nuclear program is NOT a
recent development, but can be attributed directly to the
Clinton Administration's approach from 1994 - 1999. Another
big mess to be cleaned up . . .

By the way, the study team featured heavy involvement from the decidedly non-partisan GAO and CRS.

house.gov