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To: jim black who wrote (26769)	1/3/2003 1:41:16 PM
From: Louis V. Lambrecht	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Jim - Yes, forwarded the message as this is no crap, but well articulated in the line of thinking of those bozos. Looks like the US oil-blinded admin is after the wrong foe, as usual.

To: jim black who wrote (26769)	1/3/2003 10:55:47 PM
From: pezz	Respond to of 74559

Well were that to take place there wouldn't be an American that wouldn't support your proposed response to 9/11 tenfold. Nor would there be a Muslim city left standing.I can't believe that they are so naive that they wouldn't understand our need for pure vengeance.Personaly I think that this sounds like some sort of fantasy anyway..

To: jim black who wrote (26769)	1/4/2003 12:03:46 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Jim, that article was a load of rot. But, for a long time I've said that nukes shipped in lead-lined containers buried in opium would be the ideal smuggling method. The opium would act as a decoy for crooked customs people who would turn the other way for a fee. They wouldn't turn the other way for a nuke! There is tonnes of opium going from Afghanistan to the USA. They don't use it all there. It's for export. Sending nukes by ICBM is a lot of hard work compared with a container on a ship, which would be self-funding with the opium included. So maybe it's not all rot. I think if several USA cities were nuked, the USA would discover the merits of vengeance and conquest. Moslems would find no mosque around the world left standing, Mecca would be no more. A world government would rapidly be formed. Rome would be reborn. The UN wouldn't be the basis for it either. The USA would stop lecturing China about human rights and wrongs. Collateral damage would form a greater proportion of military consequences than in recent decades. I'd be with the USA, which, people should remember, in living memory nuked two cities in Japan, complete with men, women and children going about their daily lives. That was in circumstances where mainland USA hadn't been nuked. In fact, little of the USA had been attacked. All Moslem countries would be called upon to unconditionally surrender and be occupied forthwith. Those refusing would quite simply be nuked with no notice. Islam would be banned as sedition. Freedom of religion would go out the window. The USA would find that their nemesis, like Falun Gong in China, would be rated an undesirable mysticism. Mass demonstrations by Moslem recalcitrants would be dealt with more firmly than Tienanmen Square's occupation. There would not be a continuing global economic boom. Global depression would result. Guess which countries would suffer major population reductions. Moslem countries would find a few problems as their tenuous foundations collapsed. The USA would use the oil for their own purposes. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Libya, Yemen etc would become USA precincts. Indonesia would be surrounded. Pakistan would have all nukes confiscated [they'd be nuked if they let off a single nuke to avoid occupation]. North Korea would be told to open their borders now and surrender, or be levelled in 20 minutes. North Korea and South Korea would become one country, run by South Korea. China would be on the side of the USA. They wouldn't mention Taiwan. Smallpox on the rampage, like AIDS, would be especially bad for the poor and crowded countries. So I don't think release of smallpox is likely. It travels well. I suppose the human story is far from finished and such currently unbelievable mayhem is quite possible. 6 billion people is a novel experiment in human affairs. With the [literal] dynamite of Islamic madness mixed in, it's an explosive cocktail. The likes of Osama would find that the rules would be quite different from anything they imagined. Fat, lazy, self-absorbed J6Ps would rediscover the merits of survival and the eons old adage "Rather you than me". Americans didn't like it when Tim McVeigh blew up one building and when Osama destroyed several very large buildings and thousands of people. I think nukes going off downtown would make them get very serious indeed. I'd get quite serious myself. It would not be good for the stock market. Gold would get a bit of a lift. QUALCOMM sales would boom ... KaaaBooommmm .... as everyone would want to have a cyberphone for security and to keep in touch in a very changed world. Well, with those thoughts, I think I'll go and have a nice cup of tea. Mqurice PS: Do you remember somebody talking about the end of history a decade ago? Hahaahaha!!!

To: jim black who wrote (26769)	1/4/2003 3:26:13 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Jim - I fear you are spending too much time on this thread if the following appears to make sense to you: >>The American economy is an economy of false appearances.There is no real economic ballast to the American economy. The American GDP of is something around $10 trillion, of which just 1 percent represents agriculture, and just 24 percent represents industry. Therefore, 75 percent of the American GDP is service and most of this is financial speculation. For those who understand economics, and it appears that the American Secretary of the Treasury, Paul O'Neil, doesn't, or doesn't see it, it's enough to say that the USA acts like a huge "dot-com," and dollars, strictly speaking, are its shares.<< By that logic, the country would be a better place if we had more farmers and fewer physicians, nurses, x-ray techs, research scientists, pharmacologists, computer programmers, and all the rest of those non-farming, non-manufacturing types.