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To: Hands Off who wrote (1659)1/3/2003 3:05:53 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 15987
 
and admit I agree with LB about the French attitude. As far as I can tell, their world starts and stops at Paris.


Well, hello, Marshall! Paris is gorgeous, met some wonderful girls. I will give them that.



To: Hands Off who wrote (1659)1/4/2003 12:45:41 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15987
 
BTW, I just finished reading the biography of Jean Moulin which gave me a lot of insight into the French. Not even under Nazi occupation could they succeed in working together.

An interesting book I just finished on the subject is France: the Dark Years by Julian Jackson. Very realistic investigation into the French "national myth" of the character of the Resistance, and Vichy France.

Derek



To: Hands Off who wrote (1659)1/5/2003 12:35:22 PM
From: zonder  Respond to of 15987
 
Hi Marshall,

I am about as close to France as you can get without living there

Me, too. Monaco is a separate country, you know <g> Are you in Geneva?

As far as I can tell, their world starts and stops at Paris.

The Parisians are about as snotty about Paris as the New Yorkers are about New York. You might be surprised if you ever come down to the Cote d'Azur, or most other places around France, even.

I have been to Switzerland quite a few times, and they are not the most pleasant people to talk to, either, by the way <g> Especially in the German part, there seems very little "human" in "human relations". But that's another story...

'How do you expect me to govern a country which makes 400 different types of cheese.'

<g>

Et je peux vous dire que je parle pas mal leurs langue et ca m'aide pas a les comprendrent.

Moi, je parle assez couramment le Francais apres deux ans et demi de residence a Monaco, meme si cela n'est pas a votre niveau. Je trouve les Francais tres "Mediterraneen" - humain, chaleureux, gentil... Ce n'est pas le cas a Paris, je comprend, mais essayez de ne pas juger tout les Francais par les Parisien. Si on compare les Francais avec les Russes ou les Anglais, par example, on verra qu'il y a un tel difference. Et justement, c'est ca qui me plait :)

To each his own, of course.



To: Hands Off who wrote (1659)1/5/2003 1:35:58 PM
From: epsteinbd  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 15987
 
400 cheeses for sure and good ones, but only 20% for a far right candidate... So where is the error, the doubt you mentioned ?

During WWII, it wasn't as important to have all the underground forces working together as it may seem at first look. It was important for de Gaulle to "harness" them a bit, in an attempt to avoid a Dakar type clash after the victory.

How could one possibly expect the communist underground forces to ally with the far right anti Nazi (they existed too), or pure Jewish underground units. As long as all were working for/under the UK/BBC rules, it was fair enough.

In order to put it all under perspective, the Communists underground was credited with ten thousand train derailments. Huge, hé!

Not that it changed the picture much. If at all...