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To: hmaly who wrote (157391)1/4/2003 5:29:24 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1581887
 
Ted RE..Gore sounded as if he would manage the planet. Bush didn't. Bush said the United States should intervene when our "interests" were at stake — not our "values" — and that our attitude to foreign cultures should be "humble." He said, "I just don't think it's the role of the United States to walk into a country and say, 'We do it this way, so should you.' "

And just who is he talking to here, OBL, Iraq or the US. It was OBL who came here and killed 3000 people because he thought we all ought to be Muslim, it is Saddam who is living in 50 acres palaces; and paying terrorist to blow up children in Israel, while the Iraqi children are starving.


If we are ever to have a reasonable converstation on this issue, you will need to separate OBL from Saddam. Many of us do not see them as one.

If you can not make that separation, then there is no point in discussing the matter further.

ted



To: hmaly who wrote (157391)1/4/2003 5:35:29 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1581887
 
Yes, as in Bosnia, sometimes to drop a few bombs is the moral thing to do. Whether we do it for the moral reasons or strategic interests, sometimes it has to be. And for him to say we did AFghanistan because of the women, get real, we did it primarily because they declared and waged war upon us first, and we retaliated; the women part was just gravy.

With Bosnia, Kosovo et al, our NATO allies felt threatened. They saw the conflict there was destabilizing the region and could threaten all of Eastern Europe.

With Iraq, our closest relationships [I refrain from calling them allies since I don't think they are in any sense of the word] do not feel that Saddam presents a threat and have said so publicly.

I see that as a major difference between the two theaters [of war].

ted