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To: thames_sider who wrote (20714)	1/8/2003 11:31:45 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 104154

thames_sider: It's great to get your perspective and I tend to agree with it...I actually think MOST Americans are not in favor of going into Iraq without broad international support. If Saddam weren't in power we would all be better off BUT I don't think we should get into the business of engineering 'regime change' and antagonizing many Middle Eastern countries while we do it...Nothing like getting involved with an expensive war and creating more enemies along the way...I think Europeans tend to be much more thoughtful about these things...Many Americans don't want to take the time to consider the UNintended consequences of going to war in Iraq. regards, -s2

To: thames_sider who wrote (20714)	1/8/2003 11:54:54 PM
From: abuelita	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104154

but his tongue these days seems suspiciously long and brown. - eeeeuw!! I am opposed to a "fly over, fuck the country and fuck off" as done in Afghanistan - which is now in a worse state than it was the last time the warlords were in power, immediately before the Taliban came in there with such support partly because people thought they couldn't be worse. did you know that the taliban was probably the only government that declared a war on drugs and then succeeded in prosecuting it? apparently in january 2000, the reigning mullah <?> ordered the opium producing areas under taliban control to cease production. 14 months later, the UN recorded an astonishing 97% drop in cultivation. the u.s. administation has recently tried to blame the taliban for the drug trade in afghanistan but can't really say much 'cause the u.s. office of national drug control or whatever it's called has at the same time recognized the taliban's success in reducing opium cultivation. another case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, eh? all the while, covert agencies like the cia continue to finance irregular armies to accomplish the u.s. administration's foreign policies or economic objectives that are too ugly for them to openly support. the northern alliance forces supported by the u.s. have already begun replanting the opium poppy fields that were uprooted by the taliban. obviously,i'm not saying the taliban were good guys. they weren't, but in the case of opium, they apparently got the job done. so, what to do. why, replace them of course - let's get those poppies blooming. just thinking about the possibility of maybe skimming off more drug profits to finance another covert operation is probably enough to make ollie north drool. so, that's my rant for tonight. hoser