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To: Neocon who wrote (3586)	1/8/2003 4:34:20 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

It is not totally out of the question that we may be wrong about something like the Earth's centrality, but it is beyond a reasonable doubt. That, of course, is exactly what scientists thought earlier. I do not consider the demise of dueling as a change of fashion. I consider it coming to their senses about a malignant practice that only made sense among an idle, spoiled, and vain aristocracy.. Seems to me you have almost perfectly defined a change of fashion. Apply the same principles to hoop skirts, bustles, whalebone corsets, ties, high heels, codpieces . . .

To: Neocon who wrote (3586)	1/8/2003 4:48:06 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7720

Well, the argument that promoting growth caused the budget crisis may or may not be true -- residential growth certainly is a net cost to government, but business growth is generally a net gain -- but the fat is already in the fire, the growth is already there, and voting against Measure 28 won't change that. And it's interesting that one no proponent says spending on growth is the problem, while another says spending on growth will be the solution. Huh? The pension system is already in deficit, but those are commitments that can't be changed, they are legally obligated, so those won't be cut. It's easy to say that the state should cut other things (like state employee pay) instead of education, but we know that's not going to happen, so it's like saying we shoudl solve the Iraq crisis by getting Saddam to retire to the Riviera and turn the government over to his political opponents. Yes, it would solve the immediate problem. But depending on it to solve the problem would be pretty dumb.