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To: TigerPaw who wrote (11343)1/8/2003 10:15:21 PM
From: American Spirit  Respond to of 89467
 
Bush Sr. and Chinese: yeah but the right-wingers can only blame Clinton. Typical. They blame Clinton for everything. Meanwhile their president sometimes doesn't seem to have a clue. And keep telling us what an honest guy he is despite GW's many dishonesties.



To: TigerPaw who wrote (11343)1/9/2003 12:41:25 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
U.S. cautioned about its image in Europe

By Carolyn Ayon Lee
From the International Desk
Published 1/8/2003 11:31 PM

WASHINGTON, Jan. 8 (UPI) -- A blue-ribbon panel of foreign journalists Wednesday night cautioned the United States about a distrust of Washington among European countries, telling the Council on Foreign Relations that perceived unilateralism in United States' foreign policy was of particular concern to uneasy Europeans.

"Whatever you (America) do, you will be criticized by the Europeans because there is a certain distrust which is being exploited by the nation states in Europe against Americans," said Ruediger Lentz, German TV's general manager for North America.

Lentz, who is the former bureau chief for Deutsche Welle, said there is in fact a deeply rooted impression of America's unilateralism among his fellow Germans, and that President George W. Bush is seen by many as "a warmonger, a cowboy with a loose cannon."

Although the United States and Europe have historically prided themselves on having shared values, which led to the creation of NATO, Lentz said the ties appeared to be fraying.

"I think this is a mantra which is more or less over, and we should say goodbye to it," Lentz said.

"I think what we have to discuss more properly in the future is where are our common interests, in what political areas, and especially in the areas of the economy as well as security-policy areas," he said. "I think we have much more in common than that which divides us."

Responding to Lentz's comments, another panelist, Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, said: "I think the important thing is that the difference is that we (Europe and the United States) are not bound together by a common enemy.... Apparently, the war against terrorism doesn't have the right stuff to bind us in the way that a potential war against the Soviet Union did."

The panel moderator, Martin Walker, United Press International's chief international correspondent, interposed by saying, "So long as al Qaida is smart enough not to start bombing European targets."

Kohut presented an overview of findings from the Pew Center's ambitious 2002 survey, "How Global Publics View: Their Lives, Their Countries, the World, America," which poled around 38,000 individuals in 44 countries.

He said opinions about the United States from the respondents were sometimes contradictory. On the one hand, the United States was celebrated for its technology, science, popular music, television and films. On the other hand, respondents in nearly all of the 44 countries believed that U.S. influence in the world was too great.

Kohut noted that the survey also showed a widespread acceptance of the U.S. role as the lone superpower. For example, 53 percent of those surveyed in Russia said they felt the world was a safer place with just one superpower.

Another panelist, Hafez Al-Mirazi, Washington bureau chief of al Jazeera TV, said Washington should not expect overnight success with its image campaign directed at Muslim and Arab countries.

"Don't expect if Condi (national security adviser Condoleezza) Rice gave al Jazeera an interview, that by the second day all the Arabs are going to wave with the American flags," he cautioned.

A member of the audience, Lincoln Gordon, a guest scholar at The Brookings Institution, said he just returned from 2 1/2 weeks in Brazil and had the same concerns about U.S. unilateralism.

"They believe, as a middle-sized power, that a civilized world requires working through multilateral institutions," said Gordon, a former U.S. ambassador to Brazil.

The Council on Foreign Relations is based in New York and is a nonpartisan organization with some 4,000 members. Founded in 1921, the council's goal is to increase America's understanding of the world and to contribute ideas to foreign policy. The council also publishes the authoritative journal Foreign Affairs.

Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International

upi.com



To: TigerPaw who wrote (11343)1/9/2003 5:41:12 AM
From: T L Comiskey  Respond to of 89467
 
Tiger..Please refrain from stating the facts...
The Texas Royal Family would be Very Disappointed in you
'IF' they knew you were setting the record straight...
T@ImpeachBush-CheneyNOW



To: TigerPaw who wrote (11343)1/9/2003 2:48:37 PM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 89467
 
once again, I cite Clinton accusations and facts,
and you guys claim I overlook BushSr and BushJr facts

I acknowledge nearly complete negligence by BushSr, Clinton, BushJr

you cannot hear accusations without citing others
you dont acknowledge anything by Clinton
you never have, you never will
that is precisely why you Liberal Numbnuts are such small people

I appreciate the reminder of BushSr stupidity with China
the reminder was a breath of fresh air, reality-based
I did not like the China Most Favored Nation agreement with Clinton
it seemed to paper over the Tianenmen massacre and numerous copyright violations in China
it seemed to open a one-way street of traffic, where we purchase from then as we once did from Japan, leaving us with massive trade gaps and with them owning our federal debt, resulting in political vulnerability

I thought then, and think now, MFN was a grand mistake
now we are financing and underpinning a burgeoning giant China Inc, complete with deflationary exports, built up military, and growing geopolitical might

just what do you admit Clinton failed us on ???
anything?
do you admire his dismantling of intelligence networks and dismissal of all Arab-speaking agents?
do you respect the widespread internet theft of weapons systems?
do you hold him in high regard for lying to the American public about his pubic exercises?
do you applaud his pardons for hire upon exit?

you guys clearly regard his Strong Dollar Miracle as an accomplishment, when all it did was mortgage the 2000 decade in advance for supposed prosperity in 1990 decade

JUST WHAT THE HELL DO YOU ADMIT ABOUT THIS FUCHING CRIMINAL WHO OCCUPIED OUR WHITE HOUSE AND USED IT FOR HIS PERSONAL BOUDOIR ????
your ethical compromise makes you look miniscule as persons
/ JW