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To: xk-red27 who wrote (92152)	1/11/2003 8:45:47 AM
From: DRBES	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

re: "Too bad not many other industries have figured it out." They will...they will...but all in due course. As I like to say from time to time: STAY TUNED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I suspect that you will. From what I have learned, AMD's 64bit devices are so far superior to the anything X86 that inteL has that any championing (as you did) of AMD technology in the future will be far more of a "down hill coast" than the uphill "good fight" that you endured. To be sure, inteL's merceDthurteeN is a far superior technology for a narrow family of applications that are written specifically for it; however, the best, though admittedly imperfect, analogy that I can offer is the Motorola 68000 series vs inteL's X86 offerings of yesteryear. The 68000 was architecturally far superior to X86 (or whatever they called it back then); but almost all the applications were already written for the inteL architecture. Does any of this sound familiar? It should and it really did happen. Apple, as you probably well know, adopted the Motorola architecture and a highly devoted tight cadre of followers developed and correctly swore that the Apple technology was superior for their applications. The rest, as they say, is history. inteL's plan has been, with a architectural technology for the next decade, bludgeon the industry into adopting the merceditaniC as the new standard. And, it would have worked had AMD gone out business as per plan. AND, it might still work; but, so far, it seems to get less likely with each new significant event. I hope that you own and will continue to hold AMD stock. If it goes up, as I suspect that it will, you, more than most, have earned the appreciation that the stock may enjoy. I wish us both the best of luck. Regards, DARBES

To: xk-red27 who wrote (92152)	1/11/2003 12:58:46 PM
From: bacchus_ii	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

*RE:"I guess that means I wont be one of the first to build an Opteron farm, but its amazing to see the change in perspective over the last two years."* I'm sure you will qualify fully, amply for those early system: #reply-18425420 Does anybody want to buy an Opteron? Here is a place to get it: angstrom.com This is part of the beta program that is currently under way: Angstrom is currently accepting proposals for immediate beta evaluations of the Titan64. This limited time evaluation is designed to allow compatibility testing and porting of software to the new Titan64 x86-64 platform. angstrom.com It seems to be based on the Newisys 1U server. Joe (Thanks to LiamC on Ace's: aceshardware.com Gottfried

To: xk-red27 who wrote (92152)	1/11/2003 11:25:50 PM
From: milo_morai	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Lets not forget Spy Kids 2 and Attack of the Clones crmav.com infosatellite.com

To: xk-red27 who wrote (92152)	1/12/2003 8:02:49 AM
From: crazyoldman	Respond to of 275872

xk-red27, re: Rendering Farms Thanks for sharing your experiences with us, you have special insight into an area few others do. There used to be a couple of fellows who posted lots of garbage here about AMD instability. My experience has been that the AMD Athlon processor is and always has been Rock Solid, as well as being a "performer". In light of that, I found the following from your comments very interesting: Oh yeah, our farm ran rock solid for two years straight. Those Athlons were real work horses for us. By the end of production a lot of them even got converted into ad hoc servers or workstations for artists when we needed something in a pinch. I don't think we had a single one fail during the entire two years. That was pretty impressive since a couple of our dual proc pentium III's went in for service at least a couple of times and our SGI's were always squirrely. We did have a few DOA motherboards, and one or two chips got damaged during installation but nothing out of the ordinary. Yeah, we built every dang one from scratch. We used to clean out New Egg's inventory every time we expanded the farm. I think they implemented quotas because of people like us. I too have built a couple of hundred AMD based machines...and "every dang one from scratch"! I know that feeling well. And I know the feeling that successful operation brings when "my babies" perform as expected! I am looking forward to the Hammer farms you will build...please don't forget to share your activities/experiences with us when you can. Kindest Regards, CrazyMan