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To: epicure who wrote (342126)	1/12/2003 10:46:11 AM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

So the spots on a cloned dog will be different from the spots on the one he was cloned from. Let us hope that cloned humans don't start going around committing murder. Ryan could never keep up with his commutation schedule.

To: epicure who wrote (342126)	1/12/2003 3:38:21 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

We have changed the genes ourselves. There is no reason we won't be able to do that with humans. Then we will have unique new humans, that are from cloned material. And it is that last phrase that makes the "changes" insignificant. The fact is, the organism's fundamental identity, the essential genetic material that makes it possible, that even makes the changes to it possible, are directly rooted in heterosexuality - not homosexuality. You merely copied existing heterosexuality and then tweaked it, such that the heterosexuality took on other attributes. Nature does this all the time, tweaking siblings at conception such that they are not generally carbon copies of each other, but are each unique beings consisting of various heterosexual combinations of materials from BOTH their parents. What you must do to begin to make your case is create a fully interbreeding human with a fundamentally homosexual identity. That is a thing you cannot do because by definition human identity is ALWAYS heterosexual, fundamentally consisting of essential biological material of a man and a woman. That fundamental composition is man's most essential identity in nature. Homosexuality is foreign to this identity and as such mankind has no obligation to accept, tolerate or otherwise support it. It is for this reason that bestiality is, like homosexuality, contrary to human nature.