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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (105)1/12/2003 2:11:33 PM
From: SOROS  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1210
 
Should investors listen to the "experts" again?

These are paid salesmen -- nothing more. When you go to buy a used car, do you check the prices before, or simply give the salesman all your money and tell him to buy you a car for what he thinks you should pay?

I get a real kick out of these jokers (like Holland) who make their predictions an odd number -- like they are some kind of fortune teller. What a joke! A blind monkey could do better. Now these (and new ones recently hired or promoted) are calling for 20-30% gains in the markets this year. If Greenspasm floods enough money to do that, the country is doomed. Begin watching PBS documentaries on 3rd world countries, because life as you know it is going to take a turn for the worse.

I remain,

SOROS

2001 actual closing numbers: Dow-10,021 Nas 1,950

2001 Predictions

Ralph Acampora 11,400 3,200
Laszlo Birinyi 13,050 3,450
Ed Brown 11,735 2,810
Frank Cappiello 12,100 3,800
Elizabeth Dater 11,740 2,734
Alison Deans 11,400 3,450
Harvey Eisen 12,300 3,100
Mary Farrel 12,500 4,600
Tom Gallagher 12,000 2,700
Francis Gannon 12,250 3,400
Kim Goodwin 12,400 3,000
Louis Holland 12,504 2,842
Michael Holland 12,375 3,010
John Kim 12,100 3,000
Gretchen Lash 11,800 2,500
Barbara Marcin 12,000 3,000
Roger McNamee 12,000 3,200
Brian Rogers 11,900 2,250
Nick Sargen 11,400 2,900
Liz Ann Sonders 13,000 3,500
Robert Stovall 12,675 3,675
Martin Zweig 13,170 2,570

2002 actual closing numbers: Dow-8342 Nas 1336

2002 Predictions

Ralph Acampora 11,200 2,400
Laszlo Birinyi 11,050 2,400
Ed Brown 11,100 2,220
Frank Cappiello 12,100 2,810
Elizabeth Dater 10,235 2,404
Alison Deans 10,000 2,100
Harvey Eisen 11,500 2,450
Mary Farrel 13,750 2,650
Tom Gallagher 11,050 2,130
Francis Gannon 11,150 2,150
Kim Goodwin 10,800 2,260
Louis Holland 10,947 1,987
Michael Holland 12,345 2,579
John Kim 10,750 2,100
Gretchen Lash 10,950 2,280
Barbara Marcin 11,500 2,400
Roger McNamee 11,900 2,240
Brian Rogers 11,250 2,250
Nick Sargen 10,750 2,000
Liz Ann Sonders 12,400 2,680
Robert Stovall 11,600 2,146
Martin Zweig 10,500 1,700



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (105)1/12/2003 11:05:52 PM
From: pogbull  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1210
 
<but rather a housing diffusion bubble slowmo collapse>

Agreed, but think downside momentum will pick up as the growing supply slowly starts to overwhelm dwindling demand.

Layoffs will eventually force sales (or listings and then reduced price sales)and crimp demand.

Most marginal buyers have already bought (somewhat comparable to 0% auto financing stealing sales from future).

Govt monetized support of Fannie/Freddie may drop rates lower and keep things propped up but in time these efforts will be overwhelmed by market forces.

I no longer think we get that quick 15% drop and gradual decline.

I now believe we get the slow motion decline in the beginning with a gradual acceleration and culminating with significant declines.

I am also glad to be a renter in this economic environment.
Busted my but this year to insure that I could become a one. I wouldn't wish moving twice in six months on anyone but the two sales have done wonders for my financial profile.

Aside from the increased tax burden from states and towns that home owners will face, the flexibility of being a renter in this job environment is indeed comforting. I could move next week if I had to and I wouldn't have to make a trip to the bank to drop off my house keys. <g>