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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (1481)1/15/2003 7:11:43 PM
From: Crimson Ghost  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 25898
 
US now looks to be losing or at least stalemated in phase 2 of the Afghan war. The Russians also won round 1, but lost in the end.

The US supported and controlled government controls very little outside the capital and guerilla war is escalating rapidly. There is strong evidence that US troop losses -- while still modest -- are far greater than officially reported -- perhaps 300-500 dead versus the 40 or so admitted.

The first casualty of war is always truth. And that has never been truer than today.

The US can surely win against Iraq, but the cost could be much higher than the chickenhawks contemplate.



To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (1481)1/16/2003 12:43:09 AM
From: Karen Lawrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25898
 
Does that make the whole effort to overthrow the Taliban wrong? I never said that eliminating the taliban is wrong. It's just in this instance it happened to be the wrong way to eliminate them.

This is the REAL WORLD, Karen. It's not a storybook tale and it's not fantasy land. Everything isn't always nice and clean and moral and ethical. Sometimes all you have is the choice of the lesser (you hope) of two evils. I know. Believe me, I know.



To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (1481)1/16/2003 1:08:22 AM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Respond to of 25898
 
Why didn't Bush personally strangle the Taliban when he met them personally??

I understand that Cheney had his heart problems, and von Rumsfeldt had not been taught
enough of the skill, hands-on, but with a great CIA-father, some skills should have got into
the genes and jeans.