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To: frankw1900 who wrote (66340)1/16/2003 6:20:53 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
From Kagan:

>>...appeasement is never a dirty word to those whose genuine weakness offers few appealing alternatives. For them, it is a policy of sophistication.<<

And:

>>Today?s transatlantic problem, in short, is not a George Bush problem. It is a power problem. American military strength has produced a propensity to use that strength. Europe?s military weakness has produced a perfectly understandable aversion to the exercise of military power. Indeed, it has produced a powerful European interest in inhabiting a world where strength doesn?t matter, where international law and international institutions predominate, where unilateral action by powerful nations is forbidden, where all nations regardless of their strength have equal rights and are equally protected by commonly agreed-upon international rules of behavior. Europeans have a deep interest in devaluing and eventually eradicating the brutal laws of an anarchic, Hobbesian world where power is the ultimate determinant of national security and success.

This is no reproach. It is what weaker powers have wanted from time immemorial.<<



To: frankw1900 who wrote (66340)1/16/2003 6:40:59 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
I agree, Michael, I think Kagen is closer to it than Sanes. Probably because they come at it from different Political viewpoints. This split between Europe and American is large and becoming larger. I posted an article the other day that showed the economic and social disaster that Europe is facing, and their refusal to recognize it yet.



To: frankw1900 who wrote (66340)1/18/2003 11:27:40 PM
From: James F. Hopkins  Respond to of 281500
 
I think both have merit; also I doubt that anyone
in the world could cover it all well enough to do
much more than make a fair guess.
Old systems such as the Illiminati haven't gone
away, just got better at covering their
tracks, who knows how many we now have,
what all they are into and how they compeat.
Jim