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To: The Philosopher who wrote (3857)	1/18/2003 12:42:47 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 7720

Here are some statistics from an apparently pro-life site. However, the actual statistics (not necessarily their interpretations) may well be accurate. They refute much of the hype about the dangers of tightening abortion laws. abortionfacts.com what about coat hanger abortions? And here's an author who has challenged anyone who actually knows of a coat hanger abortion to come forward with that information. So far, nobody has. christianliferesources.com

To: The Philosopher who wrote (3857)	1/18/2003 1:22:01 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 7720

It is common knowledge. My girlfriend has a background in nursing, and she tells me that in the cases where women are unable to complete the abortion on their own, they are often found with sticks, hangars, and other objects in their vagina, cervix, or uterus. Nowadays these methods are much more common in undeveloped countries such as large parts of Africa or India. I will try to find you some internet sources, but not today. In the meantime talk to any woman. They are generally aware of these things and probably know of someone in their family history or aquaintance who used knitting needles or the like. Many women in self induced abortions die from perforations of the uterus and infection. How do you think a person perforates their own uterus, Christopher! What do you think they are using? Does it matter what kind of stick or wire it is? In the meantime, it is good to know you are concerned about women being maimed and mutilated by self-induced abortions. plannedparenthood.org