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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: tejek who wrote (158474)	1/20/2003 5:33:04 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586659

We will know when its enough. Nonsense. The majority of pressure groups set up to right some wrong or achieve some point of justice do not disband when their original aim is reached, they keep trying to push further in the same direction of ever in an attempt to justify their existance and continued growth. Drug and alcohol addiction has always been higher in non white populations. It looks like we are arguing two different points. I'm not comparing addiction in non whites to that in whites. I'm comparing minority, addiction now to the level in the past. I'm sure racism has some indirect effect on the levels of addiction but the evidence shows it is not the central cause. As racism has gone down in the US the addiction of the racial and ethnic groups most often considered the victems of racism has gone up. The evidence would seem to indicate that the two are not strongly corelated and that change in one can not be used to predict changes in the other. (the two being racism and minority addiction) That may be your opinion but its not the reality. Just a few years ago, the Swiss courts ruled... The Swiss courts are not the arbiters of reality. They exist to interpret Swiss law. But like I've said before, its to everyone's benefit if past crimes are ameliorated by some form of retribution. Its a big can of worms. Everyone has ancestors that at some point where abused by governments or other racial groups. It may be argued but it hasn't happen. Its only a valid point for this discussion if it actually happens. The demand has been made in those terms so it has happened. Since the "it" I was talking about was the demand. And AA has also actually happenend. Maybe middle class whites out East are not sending their kids to private schools, but many are doing so here in the West. Many are doing it all over but a strong majority of white students are in public schools in every large region of the US. But whatever the case, its well known that many public school systems are deeply troubled and in poor financial health due to a lack of funds. IT might be well known, but it is not actually fact. If they have money problems it is most often do to mismanagement of the funds they do have. Even the schools that are actually short of funds usually have more funds then they used to have, so the whole argument that the whites left and took all the money from the school system is bogus. On this issue re the schools, I am not coming up with something from left field. American public schools, particularly in the cities, are in serious trouble... I'm not comming up with something from left field either. Yes you have schools systems in trouble but most of them recieve and spend more money per student then they used to. The problem is not a total lack of funds but rather mismanagment of funds combined with an increasing amount of the funds not reaching the classroom but being used for other purposes. Now if you want to dispute it.....find a way to support your case because it runs in the face of what is happening. It is exacctly what is happening. But since you love links so much. ncpa.org townhall.com heartland.org "First, Florida's education spending is not nearly as miserly as often claimed. According to U.S. Department of Education data, Florida spends $7,473 per pupil, placing it 33rd out of the 50 states and Washington, D.C. Second, there is no relationship between per-pupil spending and state graduation rates. The District of Columbia spends $11,649 per student, yet it manages to graduate only 58 percent of its students. If more money alone were the solution, the near doubling in U.S. per-pupil spending over the last three decades would have fixed our national graduation rate problem. It hasn't." tallahassee.com Tim