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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (67379)	1/23/2003 1:51:36 PM
From: Fred Levine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Jacob-- >>Then there is no way to win the war. Even if we strong-arm the governments of Islamic countries into allowing us access to their territory, guerrilla forces can never be defeated if they have a large sympathetic civilian population.<< I'm mixed on this. The outcome of Afghanistan has exceeded my expectations-- and by much more--the expectations of my cynical friends. Using force is not incompatible with presenting an image of compassion and acceptance. Indeed, that is what made Alexander the Great so successful in around 300BC, and that is what we are/should be doing in Afghanistan and, perhaps, Iraq. Somehow, I don't think either the Taliban and Saddam are hard acts to follow. I was surprised by the greetings of the Afghans to the UN and would be less surprised if we were welcome in Iraq. In addition, I, to repeat, think Saddam has committed crimes against humanity and should be brought to justice. This would serve to influence world history about the accountability of all leaders. And, as previously stated, he is hardly alone as a suspect. fred

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (67379)	1/23/2003 2:10:53 PM
From: Sultan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

OT and FWIW.. Middle class in most of these countries in general have no problem with things that are american, ie goods, food, movies, music what have you.. In fact all of this is generally available locally and so are american TV programs in either regular programming or through satellite.. They see higher education in US as something to strive for their kids, if they can afford it.. So it is not as if all things american are hated.. IMHO, what gets every one going is American policies when it comes to Israel and Palestine.. Even here I think with previous administrations, emotions were a bit mixed.. Although US was seen more even handed in trying to restrict Israel from getting out of hand.. But with the current administration's unconditional support of Sharon is rubbing every one the wrong way.. This link kind of points to that. cafearabica.com

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (67379)	1/24/2003 12:48:00 PM
From: Sam Citron	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

"Terrorists are a hundred times more likely to obtain a weapon of mass destruction from Pakistan than from Iraq," one senior European official said, not permitting a reporter to identify even his nationality because tensions with Washington are so high. "North Korea is far more likely to sell whatever it's got. But can we say this in public? Can we have a real debate about priorities? Not with George Bush." To Some in Europe, the Major Problem Is Bush the Cowboy By DAVID E. SANGER [NYT] nytimes.com