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To: stockman_scott who wrote (68182)	1/23/2003 7:50:13 PM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

CAN SADDAM BE CONTAINED...? HISTORY SAYS YES. The more pertinent question to me is can America and you and me and our kids and grandkids be protected against attack? The answer to your and my questions is presently no. Both answers are about to change.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (68182)	1/23/2003 8:29:43 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 281500

Vigilant containment can work. To work containment would have to be very vigilant, be supported by the international community, and be maintained indefinately. The history of the international community in regard to Iraq is not encouraging. Several key members of the UN Security Council - France, Russia, and China - have been influenced by Iraqi bribes (designed to give economic incentives to eliminate sanctions) in the form of oil development contracts. With international support like this, containment wouldn't work.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (68182)	1/23/2003 9:29:40 PM
From: tekboy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Right now the most famous foreign policy guru at the University of Chicago is John J. Mearsheimer (according to tekboy he is very highly regarded) yup. 'course he's also a bit loony...but then so are a lot of people... :0) I just got an invite to a debate on Iraq in a couple of weeks, featuring Mearsheimer and Walt opposing war and Max Boot and Bill Kristol in favor of it. I felt like telling the organizer, "gee, should be fun, lots of fireworks, but wouldn't it have been nice to have at least one of the four speakers be somebody who knows something about Iraq?" tb@snicker.com PS Wolfie today was quite good in the speech, I thought, although arrogant and unconvincing in his responses to questions afterward...

To: stockman_scott who wrote (68182)	1/24/2003 8:16:30 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

Thanks Scott, I read this before. Its an interesting article. I disagree. Hans Morgenthau i think would have supported an attack but would have wanted partners and probably some more evidence of what saddam has even if undiscovered. He might have a foot in your camp in the sense that he would probably have been critical of Bush unilateralism pre-9/11. And if Bush pulls this off and we win an easy victory in iraq, he would be praising bush to the sky. Results are key Scott. If Bush pulls this off and there is some democracy and stability in Iraq, we probably would be on the same side again. If this becomes a bloody mess and when i say bloody i also mean an inordinate about of dead iraqis i may wind up in your. Mike@gowiththewinner.com