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To: MSI who wrote (68474)1/24/2003 3:31:58 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<<get away with military adventures, and has been going on ever since>>

Actually, there was a long hiatus, lasting from Watergate to 9/11. During that time, the "intellignece" community concentrated on data-gathering (without much success; they missed every major event, the collapse of the Soviet Empire, the Iranian Revolution, etc.) Assassinations were illegal.

One of the results of 9/11 is that we are returning to the policy that existed from 1950-1973, with Islamic fundamentalists playing the role of Communists.

Most people in the world (but not most Americans), think that the world is a better place, with people like Milosevic driven from power, arrested, and imprisoned. That is, they support the RuleOfLaw in international relations, with real enforcement. And most would say that Americans like Ollie North, and Israelis like Sharon, have stepped over the line. We are finding ourselves increasingly isolated in the WarOnTerrorism, because of our insensitivity to this (and other) issues.



To: MSI who wrote (68474)1/24/2003 5:28:06 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
if these fine fellows had been taken to the gallows

As Hersh points out, we would have had to start with Jack and Bobby. All of the "Cowboy" stuff was done under the Kennedys. They wanted revenge for their screwup at the Bay of Pigs.

Congress and PC had a large share of the blame for 911. They emasculated the CIA and the FBI. Although the FBI problems are due to the stultifying Bureaucracy that has built up.