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To: KonKilo who wrote (347584)	1/24/2003 10:02:07 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

ShilohCat, Re: Confederate veterans should be honored. I don't have a dog in this fight. My grandparents came over in the wave of immigrants in the first decade of the twentieth century. But I would suggest that the reasons why the South seceded, i.e. the maintenance of an oligarchic and grossly unfair society, the backward feudalism of the region and the racial prejudices glorified by the Confederate leadership are all anathema to my sense of what the true democratic ideals of this country ought to be. I'm surprised that you take the position you do. You must be a Southerner. As someone who grew up in Illinois in a more-or-less peacefully integrated community at the time of the great civil rights struggles of the 1960's, I have zero sympathy for the goals of the Confederacy.

To: KonKilo who wrote (347584)	1/24/2003 10:32:27 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

I think that's a Southern white washing of history Just consider what Alexander H. Stephens vp of the Confederacy had to say about the Constitution of the United States (from his Cornerstone speech): "Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a Government built upon it-when the 'storm came and the wind blew, it fell.' Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and moral condition. [Applause.] This, our new Government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth." The South seceded to protect slavery. Steve