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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ed Huang who wrote (4355)	1/29/2003 4:04:08 PM
From: Mao II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Inspectors Dispute Bush Iraq Allegations By DAFNA LINZER, Associated Press Writer UNITED NATIONS - The top nuclear inspector in Iraq disputed President Bush (news - web sites)'s claims that Iraqi intelligence agents are posing as scientists but conceded Wednesday he would not be surprised if the inspections effort had been infiltrated — not necessarily by the Iraqis. In an interview with The Associated Press, Mohamed ElBaradei of the International Atomic Energy Agency also stood by his inspectors' findings that aluminum tubes the Iraqis had tried to import were for rockets and not for a nuclear program, as the president reasserted Tuesday in his State of the Union address. "We believe the tubes were destined for the conventional rocket program," ElBaradei said. He said the tubes could be modified for uranium enrichment, but the process would be expensive, time-consuming and detectable. On the Iraqi scientists, ElBaradei said it was unlikely his inspectors "could be fooled in the nuclear area on who is a scientist and who is not." "We know all the scientists from the past and I think our people could easily detect if that person is a scientist or not." In his annual speech, Bush said: "Iraqi intelligence officers are posing as the scientists inspectors are supposed to interview. Real scientists have been coached by Iraqi officials on what to say, and intelligence sources indicate that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) has ordered that scientists who cooperate with U.N. inspectors in disarming Iraq will be killed, along with their families." ElBaradei spoke shortly before he and the other chief U.N. inspector, Hans Blix, attended a crucial Security Council meeting on Iraq where they presented additional information regarding their reports on the first 60 days of inspections. Their differing — but ultimately negative — reports issued Monday were used by Bush to strengthen arguments for possible war, and could convince reluctant allies to support military action to disarm Saddam. While there were indications Moscow could be leaning toward the American position, Russian Ambassador Sergey Lavrov disputed that and said President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) had been misinterpreted. "He said, 'We believe that inspections must continue, and that if Iraq stops cooperating with inspectors and starts blocking inspections we must look into it.' We have been saying this all along," Lavrov said. The Russian diplomat also challenged the long-standing no-fly zones over northern and southern Iraq established after the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites) to protect Kurds and Shiite Muslims. "I believe the no-fly zones were unilaterally declared in violation of Security Council resolutions, and this is the Russian position vis-a-vis no fly zones, like the position of the overwhelming majority of United Nations (news - web sites) Security Council members." Still, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Yakovenko said Moscow was waiting to examine U.S. intelligence for itself. "We do not always assess specific sources of threats identically, but we regard Russian-American cooperation as an imperative in the resolution of common tasks of the provision of security and stability in the world," he said. For the United States, Wednesday's closed-door council session will be a first opportunity to gauge international support for a war against Iraq after Bush's address. The president said the United States would consult with the council, but if Saddam does not disarm, "we will lead a coalition to disarm him." The president said in his address that intelligence sources had revealed that Iraqi security personnel were hiding documents and materials from the U.N. inspectors, sanitizing inspection sites and monitoring the inspectors themselves. ElBaradei said security was tight among inspectors but he wouldn't be surprised if the teams had been infiltrated by any country eager to know what exactly was going on. "We are used to many efforts of infiltration, but I will not be shocked if we have been infiltrated. We're trying to have a very tight security plan on a need-to-know basis, and any intelligence we get is shared with not more than three or four people maximum." Blix agreed. "I don't think anyone at a high level would contend that there have been leaks," he told reporters. The president also announced that on Feb. 5, Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) would present a special session of the council with "information and intelligence about Iraq's illegal weapons programs, its attempts to hide those weapons from inspectors, and its links to terrorist groups." The announcement was welcome by allies skeptical of war and Iraq's alleged ties to al-Qaida. "I'm delighted by this American decision," said French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin, who said he would attend Powell's presentation. But at the United Nations, there was no indication that France was ready to shift positions. In Brussels, NATO (news - web sites) delivered another setback to the United States as France, Germany, Belgium and Luxembourg again blocked plans for the alliance to send planes and missiles to defend Turkey if there is war with Iraq. Officials said the U.S. proposals to start preparations to support Turkey were not even discussed at a meeting of the alliance's policy-making North Atlantic Council, after the 19 allies failed to agree in private talks Tuesday. The four allies say they do not oppose the U.S. proposals as such. But they feel it is too early to start military planning while there is still hope of avoiding a war through diplomacy and the U.N. weapons inspections process. The American proposals include sending AWACS surveillance planes and Patriot missiles systems to Turkey, intensifying naval patrols in the Mediterranean, filling in for European-based U.S. troops sent to the Gulf and an eventual role for NATO in humanitarian or peacekeeping operations in a postwar Iraq. In November, the United States managed to unite an often divided council behind a tough Security Council resolution giving inspectors broader authority to hunt for weapons of mass destruction. But under the resolution, inspectors weren't burdened with having to prove Iraq is rearming. Instead, Iraq was warned up front of "serious consequences" should it fail to cooperate with inspectors and provide them with a complete picture of the country's weapons programs. story.news.yahoo.com

To: Ed Huang who wrote (4355)	1/29/2003 4:11:24 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 25898

Blair has given four "undeniable I believe" proofs, will anyone beat that, except Mr Bean, Benny Hill and the younger generation.

To: Ed Huang who wrote (4355)	1/29/2003 10:35:03 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

>>>President Bush's State of the Union address and the Israeli election results are a bitter double whammy for the Middle East. They are the worst of news, crushing any hopes of peace in the region. Bush?s address makes it plain that war over Iraq is moving inexorably closer.<<< >>>As for George Bush's State of the Union address, one can only weep tears of bitter despair and wait for the war that must surely now come. Compulsive optimists may say that it was nothing more than posturing designed for domestic consumption and which does not necessarily translate into immediate action. Yes it was designed for the home audience. But there will come a point -- a matter of weeks at most --when he has to be seen taking action. He could have sounded a note of conciliation, building on it later. But this was all threat -- and the trouble with threats is that you have to deliver sooner or later or look the fool. Bush has painted himself into a corner. He has made it impossible for himself to climb down now.<<< arabnews.com