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To: JohnM who wrote (70551)1/31/2003 12:05:21 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
John, the resolution clearly states unless the Kyoto Protocols are changed (pretty dramatically), we in the Senate oppose it. Therefore, those opposed to ratifying the treaty are not simply "right leaning folks". As I said previously, even Tom Dashle voted for the resolution and against ratifying the treaty.

If the vote were 70-30, I might be able to see your point. But a 95-0 vote is a pretty dramatic statement from all sides of the political spectrum.

Bottom line: Clinton signed a treaty he couldn't find *one* sponsor in the Senate to support.



To: JohnM who wrote (70551)1/31/2003 12:11:28 PM
From: carranza2  Respond to of 281500
 
So you can see what I'm talking about. It's not a resolution in opposition to Kyoto; it "expresses . . . conditions for the United States becoming a signatory . . ." Two very different things.

Good grief.

Care to explain the functional difference?

The Senate is telling the President that there is no way it will ratify the treaty in its present form. Since the Treaty is not getting changed, it is a statement to a grateful President--yes, including Gore, if elected--not to bother submitting it or, if he should be stupid enough to submit it for ratification, it will be a waste of time.

Either way, the message from an unanimous bipartisan Senate is: Go away, Kyoto.

Now tell me why a ratification vote would have been any diffferent.

LOL!