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To: American Spirit who wrote (159734)2/1/2003 5:11:15 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1583789
 
No one knows what to do except to put them back in the same box Clinton did.

It is obvious that the administration's handling of the NK situation today are simply temporary techniques to get us to the end of the military stage of the Iraq situation.

When Clinton took office, we could have handled Iraq and NK with ease. While we can still handle them simulataneously, it would be fitful. As a result, the administration has made the [correct] judgment that we need to deal with Iraq, then with NK.

A gutted military appears to be hereditary for any administration following a Democrat -- Reagan spent 8 years and a lot of money trying to undo the mess Carter left; now Bush is forced to spend a ton of money rebuilding a Clinton military mess.

After it is done, it seems likely we'll deal with NK appropriately.



To: American Spirit who wrote (159734)2/2/2003 9:16:37 AM
From: hmaly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1583789
 
As Re..I'm not saying NK is Japan in 1941.

Not only isn't NK the same as Japan in 41, but you changed history to suit your disturbed theory. Cut it out. Why do you think that lying legitimizes your argument?

But it's a disturbing coincidence that troubles erupt just as we put an oil embargo on NK, just as we did on Japan<<

The only thing that is disturbed here is your brain, if you think lying about history, legitimizes your argument.

If NK stays out of its box we have a big problem there.

NK is hardly the problem a lot of people are trying to make it out to be. Its all politics. NK has openly stated, it is using the nuclear option to get negotiations started. Which means the problem can be negotiated. Saddam has refused to follow through on his negotiated treaty. That is the difference. Secondly NK is broke, and has no options except bluffing. Saddam has the money from oil to keep it up, so you need a different tack there.

No one knows what to do except to put them back in the same box Clinton did.

The problem there is that if NK had stayed in the box, there wouldn't have been a problem. Both sides, the US, during Bill's tenure , and NK broke the treaty, back in 1998 already; so when you talk box, what box are you talking about, the one that existed when GW and the EU broke off supplying oil, or the one Bill negotiated in 94.

Getting tough with NK doesn't seem to work. Just makes them paranoid and more dangerous.

Think so. I don't. China will take care of NK when it deems the time is right. What makes you think China wants the peninsula, or Japan to go nuclear, in response to NK threats. If GW really was worried, wouldn't he just have put Patriots in SK to stop the missiles from hitting Seoul. All the US has to do is wait it out. In the meantime, GW has not only made SDI look possible, now everyone who dissed it looks stupid. Do you really think Kerry can come out now and oppose it. Gw said we needed a defense from rogue nations, and look who is looking prescient now. China would have been better off to stop NK immediately, rather than let GW get SDI started without any opposition. Of course China could always go the other direction and nuke Germany and France. To bad they aren't our partners anymore.

Like the old saying goes, "don't get into a pissing contest with a skunk".

<g> Now that is a fine saying. However, if GW is anything like Mandela is saying, NK better be careful about who is the skunk here.