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Pastimes : Shuttle Columbia STS-107 -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: J.B.C. who wrote (118)	2/2/2003 3:37:07 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 627

I Thought of that too... and "NASA should have waited before making the 70mph freeway analogy." I'm will stop posting on other threads about this, ( to much over kill ) --- But to clear up what I was thinking Message 18525389 That will be my last post about the shuttle on any other thread, ( unless I get kicked off this one ) --- We have deceleration plus acceleration to consider and no way at this time to determine what the combined effect could be. But they had no way to be sure it was of no concern at the time it happened either. -- All this started with me mostly wanting to know IF the Captain on the shuttle was told about it in a timely manner while he may have still have had a window to abort the flight. -- I'm sure the ( normal) buffeting on board that time would have been so extreme , that they could not have felt the foam/or/ice impact, but were they told about it.. ( and promptly). Have you ever seen a film of the inside with them going up..? A whole lot of shaking going on is an understament..The first one I saw I put myself in their place and I knew I would have likely messed in my pants. -- Back to: The Captain sure had a right to know, (and without the delay it would take for the ground control to make up their minds if it was worth aborting.) In other words I hate it when management drops a Captain out of the loop until they think it's safe to tell him. I'm not saying that happened, but I damm sure want to know if it did, and they are side stepping my main question. --- Back to deceleration and acceleration.. (roughly) a high power rifle with a mussel velocity of 3000ft per sec ( about the same speed the shuttle would have been going at that time ) In the first 1 sec it goes from 3000ft to 2000ft per second due to air resistance & friction. or decelerates at 1000ft per second the 1st second ( and that's lead ) foam would decelerate faster. I can't buy into a cushion of air going with them at those speeds, however a shock wave effect likely wouldv'e protected the foam/or/ice from a lot of the resistance and friction until it was beyond the shuttle ( how much I have no idea ). so much for deceleration.. What rate of acceleration (ft per second) do we have if we get up to 8000mph in 8 minutes ? Both factors together are to complex for me to come up with a good guess..but I'm not going just buy into their " it was of no consequence " I think that will be proven wrong. --- I may be rushing things a bit, but they seem to be rushing to a " no fault" posture so fast I feel I have to. I've always been a big supporter of the space program, and feel I still am, but it won't move forward without some pain being spread (all the way around) and not just on the families of the dead. Jim