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To: American Spirit who wrote (353044)	2/3/2003 7:10:41 PM
From: goldworldnet	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

I agree that birth control is infinitely better than killing somebody. I've heard women make the sick joke that they brought their children into this world and they can take them out. Our society has changed and it's not pretty. Maybe this country is stuck with the abortion, but women who opt for the procedure should be required to have their tubes tied at the same time. * * *

To: American Spirit who wrote (353044)	2/3/2003 9:44:47 PM
From: David R	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

RE: Have any of you guys ever slept with a woman you wouldn't want to see again who would make a terrible mother? So, if she get's pregnant, that's her problem. she can just get an abortion, where she faces a 1-in-20 chance of complications (infection, sterilization, and even, albeit rarely, death). You get your jollies, then toss the woman like a piece of garbage. That is a very selfish attitude, my friend. You are not willing to take any responsibility for your behavior, and others have to pay the price. And how hypocritical for you to judge any woman's mothering ability, when your first choice for a child you fathered is to kill it. Worse, you want to teach all of our young men to be self-centered pigs. "Women's right to choose" is a fallacy. Most women choose abortion because of pressure from 1) family, 2) pig fathers like you, and 3) an uncaring society. David

To: American Spirit who wrote (353044)	2/3/2003 10:43:41 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 769670

Frankly, from a man's point of view, even the most principaled guy can see the wisdom of abortion in the right/wrong situation. a damnable lie. only unprincipled men that cannot control themselves. Have any of you guys ever slept with a woman you wouldn't want to see again who would make a terrible mother? I have Again I say, you are the most self serving ASs I have even known. A real man can control himself and does not have a need to sleep with any woman that he would not want to see again. and all I can say is thank God for birth control You make my case perfectly when I say ASses such as you only wish to hide behind the skirts of the "choice" mantra. Thank you for revealing your nasty self.

To: American Spirit who wrote (353044)	2/4/2003 3:28:23 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Frankly, from a man's point of view, even the most principaled guy can see the wisdom of abortion in the right/wrong situation. Have any of you guys ever slept with a woman you wouldn't want to see again who would make a terrible mother? I have... I think a truly principled man would not sleep "with a woman you wouldn't want to see again" and "who would make a terrible mother..." Such a man has an awful view of sex-- just an awful view of it. And he compounds his own tragedy by claiming a right to force society to pay for the murders he and his "toy" might wish to inflict upon some innocent kid who results of their beastly union. No principled man can have sex with a woman simply for the dang physical sex. I mean dang! Dass just masterbation inside a dang woman! How in hell can a guy even feel good after some crappy crap like dat? And the woman has GOT to feel pretty dang sleazy her own dang self. Yall some messed up mofos in my opinion. Iss yo life, but iss pucked up in my dang humble opinion. And no sensitive man can dang "SUGGEST" abortion (!) of his own dang flesh and blood. Ni I ain' preachin' about how you choose to friggin' sleaze around. I'm preachin' against you taking my dang money to pay for murdering the poor kids that happen from your sleazin'. I got a dang right to try to stop dat mess. So you ought to jess expect it.