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To: arun gera who wrote (72154)2/7/2003 2:08:13 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
>>... irrational fear ... real fear ... imaginary ... real fears ... poorer nation<<

Pardon me, but it appears to me that you are calling my fears imaginary because you don't want the US to attack Iraq. Can't remember what logical fallacy that is, something like begging the question. You're right, and I am wrong, so my fears are imaginary.

Typical male argument, especially males from authoritarian/paternalistic/phallocentric cultures with well-entrenched class/caste systems. No evidence in support of your argument, you're just automatically right because you are who you are.

>>Plot to poison troops in Britain with ricin is suspected<<
iht.com

>> The Times of London found papers in a gated al Qaeda house in Kabul, Afghanistan, that describe the development and use of ricin. "The Times found ampules, syringes and pills scattered by looters across the ground floor, but the instructions for making ricin were concealed amid a mass of scattered documents listing formulae for manufacturing explosives, fuses and detonation circuits. The instructions make chilling reading. 'A certain amount, equal to a strong dose, will be able to kill an adult, and a dose equal to seven seeds will kill a child,' one page reads. Another page says: 'Gloves and face mask are essential for the preparation of ricin. Period of death varies from 3-5 days minimum, 4-14 days maximum.'"

The Hindu wrote of the story, "What caught the eye of The Times' reporter, Mr. Anthony Loyd, was a 'single English word. .... Ricin.'"

The New York Post has reported that "Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said small traces of anthrax and another deadly substance, ricin, have been detected during inspections of at least 60 sites throughout Afghanistan. But he said the traces are so small, it's impossible to say whether al Qaeda has the capability to use the deadly substances in weapons." <<
abcnews.go.com

>>Numerous references to making ricin were in documents produced by the al Qaeda terrorist network. References to ricin were part of the group's training course and in a manual that was spread worldwide.

Iraq is also known to have included ricin in its biological weapons program.<<
asia.cnn.com

>>Zarqawi's "network" is testing ricin and other poisons at an Ansar camp here, Powell said.<<
usatoday.com

>>RICIN: THE LINK TO AL QAEDA

Plans by al Qaeda to produce the terror toxin ricin were discovered in a house in Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban.

The instructions for preparing the poison warned chillingly that `seven seeds will kill a child'.<<
sky.com



To: arun gera who wrote (72154)2/7/2003 2:08:21 PM
From: Rollcast...  Respond to of 281500
 
Hopefully, some of that "real fear" causes those "citizens of a poorer nation" to take care of Saddam first.

BTW, your characterization of fear as "imaginary" ignores the events of 9/11.