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Politics : IMPEACH GRAY DAVIS! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (227)	2/9/2003 12:30:55 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 1641

An additional comment: Ab out the Youth and Adult Correctional Agency: Message 18441301

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (227)	2/9/2003 3:26:31 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1641

The whole country was mugged by Dubya's handlers. California got some of the worst treatment by the oil gang even before they destroyed the national economy. TP

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (227)	2/9/2003 3:55:53 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1641

1. CA's 3-strikes law has GOT to be one of the dumbest pieces of legislation ever passed. It guaranteed a swelling prison population. Some ended up doing 25-to-life when the 3rd strike was shoplifting. At $60K per year per prisoner. Completely agree. What was the origin of 3 strikes, do you know... another proposition I wonder? The proposition system in Ca appeals to emotionalism on all levels, as well as short term, me first thinking. 2. Anybody willing to attempt to prove that increasing educational funding improves results? Utah mentioned above has close to the lowest per-student spending and yet does quite well in results. Japan's schools average about 50 students per teacher and give significantly better results than US schools. I'm sure if we had a homogeneous society in Ca like Japan we would have better results, come on. I did some part time teacher assisting a while back and I can tell you 30 students in a class is TOO MUCH. The other problem is the simple cost of maintenance of a California school vs. say, somewhere in the midwest. I agree with you that throwing money at schools/teachers is not a solution in general, but funding schools at the lowest levels in the country while undergoing expenses at the highest levels in the country just isn't going to give you good results plain and simple. Schools are where the budget hawks in the state are really reaching. There just isn't enough money, not because you and I don't pay enough in taxes, but because a huge number of homeowners in Ca over 55 don't pay enough to maintain good schools. That is the harsh reality.