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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ed Huang who wrote (7283)	2/11/2003 11:20:03 AM
From: Ed Huang	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Clinton Recommends U.S. Patience on Iraq Tue February 11, 2003 08:37 AM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former U.S. President Bill Clinton said in an interview broadcast on Tuesday the United States should exercise patience in its standoff with Iraq to help build allied support for a potential strike. Clinton told NBC's Today Show he did not believe war in Iraq was inevitable so long as Iraqi President Saddam Hussein opts to disarm. While stressing a second U.N. resolution was not strictly necessary, the former president said the United States ought to take pains to repair a growing rift with allies Germany, France and Russia over the need for war. "What I hope will happen is that we will let the process play out enough to maximize our international support. I would really like to see the whole U.N. with us, and I think there is a chance they will be," he said in the taped interview. "I think they will come around, if they believe that we gave the whole inspection and U.N. process a fair chance. ... We need to look like we're determined but not eager to go to war." Clinton called Secretary of State Colin Powell's Feb. 5 presentation to the United Nations "quite effective, as he always is," and praised the Bush administration for making use of the international body. "I think the patience that has been shown so far is good," he said.

To: Ed Huang who wrote (7283)	2/11/2003 9:14:16 PM
From: ForYourEyesOnly	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 25898

Important Information Hi Ed, Thank you for taking the time to respond to my posts. As you have noticed, there are many factors that contribute to the drive to invade Iraq. However, there is one that stands out as the most important. It is regarding this one factor that I would like to discuss in this post. These ideas run contrary to what we are generally told about energy issues, so they may be hard to accept, but I strongly recommend that you take the time to think about what I write, as understanding these issues may have a profound effect on your future. Modern industrial society has prospered and grown based on the availability of cheap, abundant fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are ESSENTIAL for modern agriculture, distribution, transportation, manufacturing, travel, etc. Modern society in its present form would not exist without fossil fuels. In the past century, fossil fuels have had the following characteristics: 1. Low price 2. Steady increase in supply However, in the future, due to the peaking of the Hubbert Curve, fossil fuels will become: 1. Increasingly scarce (production will steadily decline) 2. Increasingly expensive At present, only a few nations have the capability to increase production of fossil fuels, let alone maintain current production levels. Export capacity is held in the hands of a small number of nations (about 80% of oil reserves are now held by Muslim nations). Availability of oil is essential for sustaining a modern industrial society, such as exists in Europe, Japan, and North America. Any nation that fails to acquire sufficient fossil fuels will fall into chaos. He who controls the flow of oil from the Middle East not only ensures the survival of his own society, but also holds the power to decide the survival or failure of other societies. This is the Great Game, in capital letters. It is not about “petty oil profits,” but the Control of the World. Bush and his friends in the industry know this. They are friends with Matt Simmons, who most certainly has informed them of the inevitable decline in fossil fuel availability. I strongly suggest you take the time to study these issues carefully. Here are some links to start: dieoff.org financialsense.com oilcrisis.com groups.yahoo.com Warm regards, Thomas