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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (8045)	2/14/2003 1:44:30 AM
From: Patricia Trinchero	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

THe Pope won't be fooled by Iraq or Mr. Bush...............the Pope hid Jews in Poland during WWII and printed an underground newspaper during the Nazi occupation of Poland. Karolyi is a powerfully spirit-filled man who has more bravery in his little finger than Bush has in his brain. Bush has tried to cozy up with the Pope on occasions and went to visit him in Rome.The Pope won't allow himself to be used by Bush for political purposes............the Pope knows better. He is also very much against this Iraq invasion and has voiced his opposition. I am sure the Pope's unacceptance of him puts Bush's undies in a bunch.

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (8045)	2/14/2003 2:10:36 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

How many divisions does the Pope have?

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (8045)	2/14/2003 5:19:07 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 25898

Told you so.... The Iraq crisis boils down to three factors: Israel, Israel, and Israel --straight from the horse's mouth: Friday, February 14, 2003 Adar I 12, 5763 Corridors of Power / O what a lovely war By Uzi Benziman 1. A new Middle East The Israeli government is vying with the American administration in its eagerness to see the war plan put into action. And if President Bush seems to be acting out of a sense of religious mission - as if God has charged him with the task of uprooting the axis of evil, starting with Saddam Hussein - Ariel Sharon is awaiting the American operation in the desperate hope that salvation will follow in its wake. Sharon isn't alone; the entire ruling establishment - the political echelon and the senior echelon of the public sector, the top military and intelligence officials, business leaders and the politicians who are trying to put together a coalition - all are waiting for the war in the expectation that it will bring about a yearned-for turning point in the country's grim situation. One could say that Israel is looking for Ares, the ancient Greek god of war, to play the part of the deus ex machina in this drama. An almost pagan faith has been placed in the potential blessings of the American war on Iraq. An assessment made by the IDF and the intelligence community predicts that the defeat of Saddam Hussein (the presumed outcome of the American action) will send shock waves through the region that will lead to big changes in the neighboring countries. According to this forecast, the entire world - and the Arab world in particular - will be affected by the determination displayed by the U.S. in its struggle against the tyrant from Baghdad, and will learn certain lessons. Arab rulers, including Bashar Assad, Sheikh Nasrallah and Yasser Arafat, will understand that the U.S. will no longer tolerate their involvement in terrorist activity. And, as a result, their approach to Israel could change. The main hope in Israel is that Saddam's removal from Baghdad will hasten the processes of change taking place within the Palestinian leadership, which the intelligence services and the political echelon say are already discernible. The belief is that disgruntlement with Arafat and the realization that he has brought disaster to the Palestinian people will gain momentum and be translated into a process that leads to his neutralization. The assessment is that an alternative leadership - composed of Abu Ala, Abu Mazen, Salem Fayad and Mohammed Dahlan - has already coalesced. This group is ready to take on the leadership of the Palestinian Authority (and ostensibly has already agreed on a division of roles), but it will not come forward as long as Arafat refuses to step aside. Although there doesn't appear to be any Palestinian Brutus ready to do away with Arafat, the hope in Israel is that after the war in Iraq, circumstances will be created that will make it possible to remove him from a position of influence. The prevailing feeling in Jerusalem is that the leaders of Egypt and Jordan, as well as the leaders of the European countries that have been involved in trying to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, share this vision. President Bush gave the nod to this process long ago. Another hope is that the war will nudge Israel out of economic recession. In Jerusalem, they believe it will recharge the West's economy and create new opportunities for the Israeli economy. With war as the backdrop, it will be easier for Israel to receive American aid and loan guarantees, since it will certainly be included in the list of countries (like Turkey) that U.S. Congress will seek to compensate for special expenses caused by the war. [...] haaretzdaily.com The ultimate goal of the Judeofascist war-party is crystal-clear: it's the TOTAL defeat of Yasser Arafat and the surrender of the PLO remnant to the Judeofascist vision of a 100%-Jewish Jerusalem with perfunctory Arab/Muslim "sovereignty" over Muslim holy sites only... Such wild schemes used to have a name --we call them CRUSADES. How many Yankees are ready to die for (East) Jerusalem? Gus