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To: Lane3 who wrote (4484)	2/16/2003 1:32:14 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

If the UN decides that Saddam has thumbed his nose at them to a point that warrants war between the world and Iraq, that's one thing. It's not the US's place to decide that, only to participate in the UN's decision. The cease fire agreement was negotiated by agents of the US, and stopped a predominantly US force from crushing what was left of Iraq's army. If we aren't going to care if someone violates the agreement why even make one, or at least one beyond, return our POWs and stop shooting and we will also stop shooting. Tim

To: Lane3 who wrote (4484)	2/16/2003 1:50:28 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

If one had confidence that the nations in the UN were acting in a principled manner, I would agree with you. But IMO, the decisions in the UN now have little to do with protecting the region from Iraqi aggression and their acquision of stores of chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons when Saddam has shown clearly that he has no hesitancy using these weapons even against his own citizens. They have to do more with France, Germany, and Russia trying to protect their trade with Iraq (which in many cases openly violate the UN sanctions) and with trying to establish Europe as a world super-power to compete against the US. I still see a lot of parallels between the mid 1930s and today. And I think there are a lot of people who in retrospect wish the world had held firm against Germany in the 1930s. But the world waffled, in part because some of those countries, including France, were benefiting from their trade with Germany that was enabling Germany to rearm illegally. History does repeat itself. but sometimes you have a chance to write a different outcome.