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To: zonder who wrote (4228)	2/17/2003 8:31:11 AM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

zonder. This can't be a good thing for EU...can it? Pope Asks EU to Cite Christian Heritage By Associated Press February 16, 2003, 10:25 AM EST VATICAN CITY -- Pope John Paul II renewed his appeal Sunday for the future European constitution to cite the continent's Christian heritage, saying such recognition would in no way diminish the secular nature of the European Union. "On the contrary, it will help guard the continent against the double risk of ideological secularism, on the one hand, and sectarian integralism on the other," the pope said in his weekly appearance in St. Peter's Square. His appeal came a week after a panel drafting the constitution issued its first drafts of articles on the EU's values, objectives and powers and on the fundamental rights of EU nationals. Absent from the drafts is any mention of God -- an issue that has already led to a contentious debate whether the EU's first constitution should mention God by name and define European values as including "those who believe in God as the source of truth, justice, good and beauty." The question of God and religion is highly contentious in Europe, where nations have very different historical church-state relations. In his comments Sunday, the pope cited two ninth century saints, Ciril and Metod, who he said infused European culture with Christian and Byzantine influence. "Precisely for this it has been asked that the future European Union constitutional treaty not leave out this common patrimony of the East and the West," he said. "Such a reference would not take away from the just secularness of the political structures." The European Convention is expected to begin adding amendments and other changes to the drafts presented last week. newsday.com

To: zonder who wrote (4228)	2/17/2003 11:23:58 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

Your post is well done. However the argument you present about 11 years does nothing to discredit the accuracy of the report. Only if you can show how today is any different than 11 years ago can you start to attempt to discredit the report. If nothing has changed then indeed, the report is current and accurate. In the light of all the other current data presented concerning the obvious missing WMD materials and contemporary actions of Iraq in hiding WMD, I see no reason or facts to suggest that that report is not current and accurate. It was an analysis of facts and the facts have not really changed. More precisely, and analysis of present day information would suggest nothing different than analysis of information 11 years ago. The student took available data and used a reasonable perspective to interpret and present conclusions. It seem the logic of 11 years ago fits today's information very well. And it leads to the same conclusions.