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To: Tommaso who wrote (221900)	2/17/2003 2:16:17 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

imo it's more basic than that. the french are fundamentally idiosyncratic, americans are fundamentally conformist. total culture clash.

To: Tommaso who wrote (221900)	2/17/2003 5:33:24 PM
From: marginmike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

The french are a backward socialist nation. Most young french come here or go elsewhere to have a chance to succeed. Most are demoralised by the lack of any inginuity, or chance for moving up in society. I know many French in University and they all agree there is nothing in France for them. France is an economic has been.

To: Tommaso who wrote (221900)	2/17/2003 8:21:29 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Cheese? Wine? Is that central to you? Would the french whistle a different tune if terrorists flew into the Eifel Tower or the Louvre? I am always dazzled at the stupidity, complacency, and absolute arrogance of the french... we saved their asses in WW I and WW II, we rebuilt their cities, we forgave their loans, for more than 50 years we spent American tax money keeping troops in bases in their country throughout the cold war protecting them from Communism... we defended them at our expense which allowed them astronomical savings on defense, saving which they used to develop their cities, simulate their economy, and grow economically and politically globally to do all the things you list, without the United States, france would not exist today... but now when it comes to recruiting them in a fight against terrorism, they look away... I say let them, they are nothing more than spoiled brats... the french have now effectively disqualified themselves as a significant world power, they cannot be respected or trusted... you're going to see a new european alliance including countries further to the east of central europe, and mark my words that france will not be included, the world can function well without france and their wine and cheese... The next time terrorists and foreign armies are blowing up their bridges and bombing their buildings and raping their women, and they pick up the phone to call us for help, maybe we won't answer their call..... GZ