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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (76652)2/22/2003 9:05:01 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Respond to of 281500
 
>>What makes Iraq unique is not that it's a brutal dictatorship, that it has terrorist ties, that it sits on gobs of oil, that it's invaded its neighbors, or that it's used weapons of mass destruction to wipe out people whenever it saw fit -- no, what makes it unique is that all these things apply.<<

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!

And we have a winner!

Bingo!



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (76652)2/23/2003 12:54:13 AM
From: paul_philp  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Nadine,

Excellent post from e.nough. Thanks for posting it. Add to his list that Iraq sits next to Saudi Arabia, Iran and Syria and you have the whole story. It is a complex story but it does need to be told.

Paul



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (76652)2/23/2003 6:06:07 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
<good comments from blogger e.nough:>

He lists, and knocks down, each individual reason for invading Iraq, and then says: but the sum is greater than the parts, so we should invade anyway. How so?

Then, he goes off on a long paranoid fantasy, about how Saddam is going to conquer the planet if we don't invade now. The fantasy starts with:

<First, Iran will be easily conquered>

Iran has a population far larger than Iraq. And much of Iraq's population (Kurds, Shias) could not be counted on to garrison Iran. So, even assuming an unconditional surrender by Iran, Saddam would have already over-reached, just trying to hold Iran. He would quickly face a popular uprising, where his army and the Iranian guerrillas would be so mixed, nuclear weapons would be unusable.

Building a nuclear weapon, and the means to deliver it, takes a large industrial complex, with a lot of inputs. You can't hide it in Presidential Palaces. You can't hide it in the back of trucks. You can identify it and destroy it from the air. I like Steve Roger's idea of instantly destroying any site where inspections are obstructed in any way. And a real blockade.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (76652)2/23/2003 6:18:46 PM
From: Carolyn  Respond to of 281500
 
Nadine, that is a fabulous post. Thank you!



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (76652)2/23/2003 6:44:17 PM
From: epsteinbd  Respond to of 281500
 
Says it all. The next debates should be technical/ tactical, here at least.