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To: JohnM who wrote (77853)2/26/2003 4:02:09 PM
From: paul_philp  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
We certainly agree that Bush has not done nearly the communications work that is required.

As for me personally, I think that Iraq is a beachhead to make America a powerful force in the Middle East, combined with Saddam flagrant refusal to disarm and the fact that he has twice been less than a year from having nukes without any Western intelligence agencies knowing is all the justification I need. I expect that there will be some terrorist attacks on US troops out of Iran and that will lead to some tactical retaliation. However, beyond that, I don't expect any large scale military action after Iraq but I do think there will be more than 100,000 troops in Iraq for roughly 5 years.

Paul



To: JohnM who wrote (77853)2/26/2003 5:23:23 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Saddam and bin Laden "will" cooperate tactically, who knows

A thought just hit me as I read your post. If we get attacks here by Terrorists when we liberate Iraq, you can forget the next Presidential election. Bush will win no matter how the invasion and occupation goes. It will "Prove" that they are all working in tandem, and that we have to go after all of them. No amount of Dem protests will overcome it.



To: JohnM who wrote (77853)2/26/2003 9:12:41 PM
From: frankw1900  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
So, finally, I gather you are pinning your argument on Saddam's refusal to disarm. That's hardly even close to a reason to invade. It is certainly a reason to keep him pinned in, to make the sanctions smarter, etc. But not to invoke the devastation of war. Not at all.

OK. For sake of the argument. Who is going to continue "to keep him pinned in, to make the sanctions smarter, etc."

And whilst he is kept "pinned in" he will continue to murder and torture entire families and neighbourhoods. He will continue to starve the unfavoured parts of the population under the "smarter sanctions." But, of course, this isn't the same as the "devastation of war" and we certainly won't have invoked it. Right?

frank@onemilliondeadfourmillionexiled.com