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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (364555)2/28/2003 9:35:34 AM
From: Bald Eagle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Saddam's sons, worse than the father?
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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (364555)2/28/2003 9:53:21 AM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
>>> But as I showed, the evidence of history, and biology, lies clearly in the other direction.

No. The evidence of history lies in the other direction. The indisputable evidence of biology is 50-50 one man/one woman for the duration of life. That is the biological identity of all humanity. Merely because people, like animals, act in ignorance of and in conflict with their identity is certainly no reason to claim that identity does not exist. The identity is plainly before us.

So you can't claim that 'monogamy' is the 'biological identity' of humanity... however much that might be a desirable state of affairs, or a moral state for civilization that you wish to bring about.

I don't claim "monogamy" is the biological identity. Monogamy is the fundamental human relationship having most integrity with the human biological identity. That is simply a fact.

Argue for it as you want from a moral point-of-view - or by claiming the benefits monogamy bring to society

There is no need for this when the plain and even more fundamentally self-evident fact is that heterosexual monogamy reflects our biological nature above any other sexual relationship.

- but I wouldn't claim any mandate for it from biological evidence... because the evidence clearly belies that claim.

The evidence certainly does no such thing. What you've done here is merely point to the fact that people have acted contrary to their obvious 50/50 one man/one woman natural identity. Big deal. Only one relationship reflects what they truly are in nature.