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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Mark Konrad who wrote (13902)	2/28/2003 11:11:59 AM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

Interesting fantasy you have constructed there. In reality, Churchill was shocked when Roosevelt proposed the idea of defeating and removing the Nazi regime. Churchill had only planned to contain Hitler. Tom

To: Mark Konrad who wrote (13902)	2/28/2003 11:29:25 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

Not really. Hitler despised the LoN because he had the power to ignore it, having a far more ready and effective army than any other nation of the time. Saddam's a tinpot threat to nothing except the miserable inhabitants of Iraq. He's about as dangerous to the US as my granny, and she's been dead for ten years. Do think about it... Hitler fought off the rest of Europe for 6 years, and Russia and the US put together for 4 years. Saddam will be very lucky to last 6 days. Parallel? Puh-lease. Now, do you really want to work on the parallel of a nation which ignores international opinion and supra-national bodies, claims pre-emptive strike rights against other countries because of trumped-up and patently bogus "threats", is highly militarised and technologically advanced, has very close connections between heavy industry/resource combines and government...? I'd advise not. Work on some sensible arguments, like "We want to secure oil supplies until 2025 to keep inflation down and make Mr Cheney rich when he leaves office. Oh, and he's a bad man who tried to kill my daddy". You know, honest stuff we can all agree with as valid aims for the world's greatest democracy.

To: Mark Konrad who wrote (13902)	2/28/2003 3:03:42 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

You can't say anything much about this war so you attempt to replay WWII. It's a good TRY, and if you were dealing with someone who didn't know the history of both situations I daresay it might even work. Not even historians agree with you, though- there was a nice article posted here about that. This isn't about appeasement. Saddam isn't taking over anything, and when he tried to take Kuwait, we went to war and beat him soundly. This is about not whacking an already defeated enemy for reasons that seem spurious. That is a totally different issue.